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#1241 Posted : 9/27/2018 4:38:43 PM
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#1242 Posted : 10/1/2018 9:44:59 AM

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Harvesting some small twigs and phyllodes with the trees health in mind might reward you, however, I strongly advise against harvesting root bark. From what I have read, A.Angustissima gives small yields, although, that is based on very little evidence. More ETHICAL research is required! Very happy

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I can't really attempt an identification with such little information. If you can get pictures of any flowers, seed pods, and generally, the tree, I can give it a go!

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#1243 Posted : 11/2/2018 2:41:10 AM

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Hi

Could somone please help me with identifying this species of Acacia and whether it is active or not? I'm thinking it might be Acacia Retinodes?

This is located in South Australia and is quite common from what I have seen. These photos were taken at various stages of flowering.

Thanks
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#1244 Posted : 11/3/2018 3:15:55 AM

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I agree with your identification of A.Retinodes. Pictures of any seed pods would help confirm said identification. Regarding its alkaloid profile, very little information exists around A.Retinodes. Information here (specifically post 97) suggests tryptamine content of 0.02% or below. If you have the resources, attempting an extraction on phyllode and twig material may give yields. If it doesn't, at least you are aiding research into this unique specimen. I hope this helps!
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#1245 Posted : 11/3/2018 6:06:04 AM

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Lupis Arante wrote:
..Sigtyr..

I agree with your identification of A.Retinodes. Pictures of any seed pods would help confirm said identification. Regarding its alkaloid profile, very little information exists around A.Retinodes. Information here (specifically post 97) suggests tryptamine content of 0.02% or below. If you have the resources, attempting an extraction on phyllode and twig material may give yields. If it doesn't, at least you are aiding research into this unique specimen. I hope this helps!


Thanks for the confirmation. I looked for seed pods at the time of the pictures being taken but there were none about or on the ground amongst the dead phyllodes that I could see, though I will take another look next time I'm in the area.

I do recall seeing some on that particular tree last year and from memory, they looked very similar to pictures of A.Retinodes seed pods that I have seen online.

I'm about to attempt an extraction on another species shortly, however, I'll be more than happy to experiment with A.Retinodes down the track and share my results.
 
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#1246 Posted : 11/9/2018 6:28:26 AM
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Heya can anyone help identify these?

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#1247 Posted : 11/18/2018 12:38:05 AM

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Lupis Arante wrote:
..Sigtyr..

I agree with your identification of A.Retinodes. Pictures of any seed pods would help confirm said identification. Regarding its alkaloid profile, very little information exists around A.Retinodes. Information here (specifically post 97) suggests tryptamine content of 0.02% or below. If you have the resources, attempting an extraction on phyllode and twig material may give yields. If it doesn't, at least you are aiding research into this unique specimen. I hope this helps!


Yesterday I managed to get a couple of photos of some young seed pods that are on this tree.
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#1248 Posted : 11/19/2018 11:57:46 AM
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Evening ladies and gentlemen.

Would a knowledge eye cast a glance and confirm if possible what this beauty is please?
 
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#1249 Posted : 11/19/2018 12:03:53 PM
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Evening ladies and gentlemen.

Would a knowledgeable eye mind casting it over these few photos and confirming what these are if possible please!

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#1250 Posted : 11/19/2018 1:39:23 PM

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A relevant reminder from the FAQ for people posting in this thread, please read it all!


Does this plant contain DMT ? wrote:


1- First do an initial homework on what plants of interest grow in your area.

If it's a suspected Acacia, look up the Acacia Information Thread, see if you can find any info about your geographical area. If it's a suspected Mimosa, look at the Mimosa spp. workthread, if it's a suspected Phalaris read the Phalaris Analysis thread to find if there's any relevant info.

You can look up the information to know the plants that contain interesting alkaloids. For example the DMT Wiki (or 5-MeO-DMT wiki)


2- Do your own preliminary guesswork before asking others. What do you think is the plant you found? To get some idea on what it could be, check the information threads mentioned in point 1 above, and also you can use plant-identifying phone apps like PlantSnap or pl@ntnet to help trying to narrow down suspected ID's.


3- Take detailed pictures of the different plant parts (overall plant, leaf close up front and back, seedpods and flower close ups if they are there). Often to differentiate between species the details are important, so blurry bad quality pictures or single pictures with no close ups or details of different plant parts are not enough.

4- Post your ID request in the Acacia /Mimosa ID thread if it's a suspected Acacia or Mimosa, or make a new thread if it's a differen't plant. Be sure to say what plant you think it is, and include information such as general geographic area, the detailed pics above, and any possible differences you may have seen with the plant you think it is.

5- If your plant gets identified and you plan on harvesting, please only harvest sustainably! Check this post for more information

6- It is recommended that you do some sort of basic analysis to see if plant has the alkaloids of interest before consuming. Simplest method would be getting a reagent like Ehrlich, doing a simple ethanol soak on a small amount of your suspected plant material, and after evapping the ethanol you use a drop of ehrlich on the extract. If it turns purple, its a good indication there are related alkaloids, it is not a final identification but at least it's a good sign. One can also use TLC kits for more accurate identification of compounds, or go for a full lab test which is being offered for free for Nexians (as of sept 2018, check the thread for updates).
 
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#1251 Posted : 11/20/2018 2:13:27 AM

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hello nexians!
Hope someone can help me identify this. Looking at the flowers I thought it was Albizia Lebbeck but these leaves don't match with anything I've seen so far.
What do I have here?
https://imgur.com/a/E111Wnv
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https://imgur.com/a/l16hV5O

(btw, hi endlessness!Stop didn't know there was a mod with that name when I made my account so don't take it personal, lol)
 
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#1252 Posted : 11/20/2018 2:29:52 PM

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..Sigtyr..

Thank you for providing a lovely picture, as expected, my identification stands as A.Retinodes

..McSlurry87..

What country are these trees in? Are they native to that country? I am having a hard time coming to an identification on either of your presented trees.
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#1253 Posted : 11/23/2018 9:49:39 PM
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Endless - Thank you! Appreciate the effort to educate. I have been scowering the web on a couple of databases such as

https://www.ala.org.au

However I will follow your advice first.

Lupus - In 'Straya mate! Sydney. And yes I believe they are natural Australian variety. Sorry about the quality and lack of different closeups on different segments of the subject.
 
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#1254 Posted : 11/24/2018 8:54:54 AM

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Struggling to work out what this might be but smoking the flower buds definitely puts me in a nice space.

Thank you for your wisdom Nexus.

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#1255 Posted : 11/24/2018 9:36:26 AM

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First thing that came to mind was Albizia julibrissin but I'd like to see more photos and info. Also I'm not sure if Albizia leaves close like that. In any case please read this before posting asking for id help.
 
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#1256 Posted : 11/24/2018 10:31:36 AM

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Thanks Endlessness, I think you're right - Albizia julibrissin.

Albizia leaves do close at night and in the cold, so I'm confident that's all it is.

Sorry I didn't provide everything as per the guide, I was excited.

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#1257 Posted : 11/27/2018 4:14:11 PM

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I found this very large tree today in a park, seems like acacia dealbata to me,
can someone confirm this?
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#1258 Posted : 11/28/2018 9:39:06 AM

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It might be, I'm def no expert, I'd wait for others to chime in, but.... the dealbata's I see in my neighborhood are somewhat different, they have a more blueish tone, the flower clusters are more densely packed.

By the way, as stated earlier in the thread, better provide more info regarding for example general geographic area if possible.

Either way it might be worth a try to harvest a little bit and do a test with it with reagents and/or TLC to see if it has alkaloids of interest, before harvesting a larger amount to potentially extract. Check the end of this faq entry for more info.
 
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#1259 Posted : 11/28/2018 11:45:11 AM

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thanks for the link, haven't checked that yet Embarrased
I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina btw.
 
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#1260 Posted : 11/30/2018 2:18:10 AM

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..∇Endless ⃤. ..

That to me looks like a Vachellia Aroma. I am fairly sure its not A. Dealbata, flowers are not clustered nearly enough, they are also growing somewhat sporadic instead of in a columnar formation usually seen in A. Dealbata. Vachellia Aroma is also native to Argentina, I urge you to challenge my identification as I am working purely off the pictures you have provided. I hope this helps!
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