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antrocles
#1 Posted : 11/20/2009 12:02:30 AM

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soooo.....first time STB and i've got a wee problem...

after i microwaved a bunch of epsom salt and shook it in with my saturated Naphtha, i transferred my "dry" solvent into a pyrex baking pan, covered it with saran wrap and put it into my freezer (set on max cold).

about 2 hours later i poke my head in for a sec and i have crystal formation ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SARAN WRAP! wtf? that can't be spice....

so i rip that baby outta the freezer and take off the saran wrap....smells like solvent but water would too...i find a pyrex bowl with air-tight sealing lid and transfer the solvent into it. the bottom of the baking pan is covered with a goopy yellowish sludge...

this is not looking too good....

i put the baking pan in the window to evap and seal the solvent in it's new air-tight bowl and place it back in the freezer.

situation as it stands: pan is almost evapped and is just goopy plant fat sludge. solvent in the freezer appears to be having crystalline formation on the inside of the lid.

is there still water in my solvent? if so, WUT DO I DO???

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#2 Posted : 11/20/2009 12:17:56 AM

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Even if there is a bit of water it shouldnt hurt...

Once the whole thing is precipitated, pour the naphtha off (through a filter just in case there is some floating dmt), close the container again, turn it upside down and into the freezer again for a couple more hours.. Then the rest of naphtha will drop off to the lid, so after just take it out and carefully open throwing away the naphtha (or also passing through filter just in case) .. Now you should basically scrape your crystals and put them on top of a coffee filter to air dry the rest.. Even if there is some water, the water will melt and just fall through the filter/evap and it wont take any dmt along.. just leave the crystals there to dry and all will be fine Smile
 
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#3 Posted : 11/20/2009 2:25:19 AM

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MY HERO! Pleased

thank you my brother. this sludge in the original tray has evapped and it is DEFINITELY some N-N-oxide lookin' stuff.... part of me wants to try it...
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#4 Posted : 11/20/2009 3:02:38 AM

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#5 Posted : 11/20/2009 4:57:11 AM

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just did.....man....i don't have the slightest clue why people trip out on the dark orange stuff! it's magic in it's own right!! different yet VERY similar...really wonderful...

and hey J- i made your changa!!! exact recipe (though i added just a touch of mullein for me ol' lungs) ....it is:

a) DEEEEELISHUS!
b) POTENT!!
c) the caapi vine makes A WORLD of difference to the journey!!! YOWLZA! it's like an aya journey in terms of the SPIRIT of it all....SO BEAUTIFUL!!!! MANY THANKS MY BROTHER!!

...and yes, i will be doing all of my changa-fications via acetone from now on. evaps much quicker than IPA and seems to just plain work better.

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#6 Posted : 11/20/2009 5:14:11 AM

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Well could be good because all the oxide fats and other gooo stayed in you frezzer dish. You would have had to remove it somehow anyway.
Normally by re xtal. ie heating solvent saturated with spice filter and cool.

The oxide/plant fats will go to bottom before DMT xtals appear and normally the top layer is poured off before the DMT percipients. This is what occurred in your freezer.

You have accomplished this inadvertently with out thinking of it or trying.

ZEN STYLE/BEGINNERS MIND!

The power of nothing at you fingertips.

You respect the universe and she takes one step out of you STB process.

Do on to other as they do on to you.

L&G BRO!

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#7 Posted : 11/20/2009 5:27:36 AM

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thanks for the head's-up MV!! i tell you what- i KNOW i'm divinely led....something just told me to take that dish out and transfer the solvent to a diff. container. when i saw all the goop stuck to the bottom of the dish (yet NO crystals), part of me panicked....but another part just KNEW that i had done something GOOD! Smile

...thanks for reaffirming my belief in....well...BELIEF! ZEN MIND/BEGINNER'S MIND INDEED!! WOO-HOO!!!!

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#8 Posted : 11/20/2009 5:49:48 AM

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Yes there is always plenty of yellow/brown gooo with a STB. It shows up early into cool down and sinks to be bottom. If you do not remove it your xtals will grow up from a bed of Nasty goo. This may produce Nice xtals on top and oily unsmokable at the bottom.

I like to dry the jar and scrape of brush off the top white xtals leaving yellow behind. Then repeat xtal a few times pouring off top solvent layer and leaving yellow/brown behind. Eventually you will see no more gooo at the bottom, your spice is clean.

I have been experimenting with A/Bs trying to find a simple single pot tek with minium filtration and solution transfers. Not sure if it will pan out but I am working on it.

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#9 Posted : 2/19/2011 12:56:29 AM

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Antrocles!!!

My deepest respects to you brother, Namasté to you

I just wanted to share a thought; "rise above the illusion of time and you will have tomorrows wisdom today" yeah, definately! but..... wisdom is timeless!!!
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