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the population are very well, and of least concern. I know they die a lot from road traffick. and li Options
 
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#41 Posted : 5/9/2018 6:40:02 AM

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You are correct and now I understand.. it is exactly like mexican street kids. Its better we lock them up instead of the kids getting hurt in the streets. And then of course it would be cruel to put them back on the streets so its better to keep them locked up. Maybe we can try and extract DMT from them? As natural as it gets!Pleased
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#42 Posted : 5/9/2018 9:08:59 AM

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It's not better. You simply don't innerstand. True that my buddy living there try to save a few when they all cross the road and get spalsh by the hundreds. It's better to protect the environment, like sonoran desert and amazon for kambos and protect anyway big patches of nature eeverwhere.

Poeple like you who prone in passive behzavior and let it be just let life go extinct because they believe man shouldn't intervene with animals. vegan attitude, unfortunately, extinction en masses of those animals is already happening. although this Toad isn't concerned yet, and is not yet endangered. I believe it will get more protection because of it's highly therapeutic secretion than if it was a basic toad most poeple ignore the existence. So in a way, this secretion are a bless and maybe a curse to some, but gloablly, it can help them get more attention, and protection. even at worst, breeding progams to save the race form going exticnt in the future. Poeple want ot make sanctuary for them because of their entheogenic quality.
Am sure there are tons of other frogs and toads that don't have this status. Let's just stop greed and harvesting industrial quantities like it happened for peyotes in the past. But even, properly milking doesn't lower populations. it's thus more sustainable, as long as poeple doing it are sensitive enough.

Animals and paltns go exticnt every year... ANd, maybe it's a shame, but some only survive in captivity so far. Because man destroys all for building and exploiting ressources. Nothing is as simple, and always some good and bad is interlaced. In everything. Otherwise you just romanticize everything. But here, the toad is already captive, what you want ? Trying be helpful and eventually make his living conditions better, or ignore it and let maybe suffering animal, or kill it ? I do'nt know you're not helping here.
Now you know those toads, bufo alvarius are so passionately instilling arguments becaus eof their relation with human ? You would not give a damn if it wasn't for it's relation to human. Like a sacred amphibian.

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Ulim
#43 Posted : 5/9/2018 11:50:17 AM

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null24 wrote:
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×... Also releasing it would probably kill it in less than a month. You cant just release animals especially not if this one was captive bred. Also releasing an animal is hard because you first need to find their actual habitat. Just releasing it in the same reagion is not enough. You need to find a population and then slowly train it back to be self sustained.
Its true that some animals should not be kept. But a toad is not one of those animals. Toads rarely travel long distances and are pretty happy with food water and shelter...×...bullies.

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You seem to mistake me saying not to release it with me saying release it.

and ofc = of course
 
dreamer042
#44 Posted : 5/9/2018 5:20:25 PM

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Alright, I suppose I better put in my piece here.

A very magical creature has entered your life. Being the caretaker of such a being is indeed a very special gift. Not many get to meet, let alone live with, such a remarkable ally. Consider how fortunate you are to have this opportunity.

He won't live in the wild, you have him, now he is your responsibility. Put venom out of your mind, 5-MeO-DMT is available via many routes, this is not the best one. Obviously he's not gonna give up the goods under the present conditions anyway, so don't sweat it.

Ask not what your toad can do for you, ask what you can do for your toad. Big grin

Seriously though, does he have a nice terrarium? Temperatures good? Room to move about? Places to hide and chill out? Plenty fresh water? Good diet, lotsa bugs to hunt down and keep him entertained and satiated? Providing adequate care along these lines is your primary concern here.

I've read conflicting reports. Some say the venom develops during the hibernation period, which is something that captive toads never undergo. Yet I've also read accounts of people being able to milk captive bred and raised toads, so I'm not sure where the truth is there. Your best bet is to research it thoroughly. Learn everything you can about the toads habitat and life cycle and try to create optimum conditions as much as possible. Whether you ever end up getting venom from him or not, a happy toad will provide moar auspicious blessings in your life than an unhappy one.

In the meantime, plant a 5-MeO containing acacia tree and a patch of phalaris grass. Consider finding synthetic material. Even plan a pilgrimage to toad country and meet your friend's wild relatives if you absolutely must have the venom.

Please re-examine your intentions on this one, forget about the substance seeking and just seek the favor of the toad. I can guarantee if you follow that route, other opportunities will open up for you to have the experience you seek.



What do you call an illegally parked frog?
-Toad.

What goes dot-dot-croak, dot-dash-croak?
-Morse toad!

At the edge of the forest there was a somewhat mediocre wizard. He is there to help the animals of the forest with some of their daily problems. One day a toad hops in.
The toad says "Oh wizard, please help me. I was born with a yellow penis."
"I've told you animals, I can't help you with any big problems," responds the wizard. "You'll have to go see the Wizard of Oz."
So the toad hops off on his merry little way. But in not too long an elephant enters the wizards pad.
"Oh wizard," the elephant begins, "please help me. I was born without a trunk."
Now the wizard is infuriated. "Don't you stupid animals ever listen!!! Take your damn big problems to the wizard of Oz!"
The elephant responds "But, wizard how do I get to the Wizard of Oz?"
"Oh that's easy," says the wizard. "Just follow the yellow dicked toad!"
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...

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rOm
#45 Posted : 5/9/2018 7:59:29 PM

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Thank you dreamoar for being so articulated and so proactive in this. We do need poeple like you, with no confusion of language and getting heatted up by the factual reality. You desserve Moar wild mangoes !!! Pleased
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#46 Posted : 5/10/2018 11:38:24 AM

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tjruddhks
#47 Posted : 5/26/2018 10:32:22 AM

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What goes dot-dot-croak, dot-dash-croak?
 
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#48 Posted : 5/26/2018 6:59:56 PM
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Why is everyone complaining about keeping the toads, as long as he treats them right what's it matter, we all have pets of some kind of another. Dogs, cats, snakes, lizards, frogs, TOADS, you name it.
 
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#49 Posted : 5/27/2018 11:11:52 PM

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I can't get no trippy venom, I can't get no trippy venom
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no

When I'm drivin' in my car, and the man come on the radio
He's tellin' me more and more about some useless information
Supposed to fire my imagination
I can't get no, oh, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey
That's what I say

I can't get no trippy venom, I can't get no trippy venom
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no

When I'm watchin' my tv and a man comes on and tell me
How white my shirts can be
But, he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke
The same cigarettes as me
I can't get no, oh, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey
That's what I say

I can't get no trippy venom, I can't get trippy venom
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no

When I'm ridin' round the world
And I'm doin' this and I'm signin' that
And I'm tryin' to make some girl, who tells me
Baby, better come back maybe next week
Can't you see I'm on a losing streak

I can't get no, oh, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey
That's what I say, I can't get no, I can't get no
I can't get no trippy venom, no trippy venom
No trippy venom, no trippy venom

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"In the universe there is an immeasurable, indescribable force which shamans call intent, and absolutely everything that exists in the entire cosmos is attached to intent by a connecting link." ~Carlos Castaneda
 
tjruddhks
#50 Posted : 10/21/2018 7:50:18 AM

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update
 
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#51 Posted : 10/21/2018 9:17:29 AM

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and... a year later?

Have you managed to squeeze any drugs out of your pet?
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rOm
#52 Posted : 10/22/2018 3:13:59 PM

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Listen, first your toads needs to reach a certain maturity. then I heard it can produce this secretion in captivity, but maybe it needs certain comfort ? live foods and right temperature, etc.. am not expert at all.
But you should first consider they are your host, you adoted them, not because you want quick and cheap substances.
Make them happy and treat them well. Go in reptiles forum maybe and meetings of other reptiles / amphibians owners and breeders. But I think they do'nt like you milk them. also its exactly what makes them illegal.

Now give us news. Any updates ?

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