What is an average (minimum) amount of phalaris grass to get a sufficient extraction yield?

Do you mean arundinacea or aquatica/tuberosa ?

Also, have you looked on the forum for threads on this ? a simple search showed this thread, this one (including pictures of a successful, if gooey, extraction), and this one. There's also this page on Erowid, which also include an extraction report (there too with gooey but usable results).

Okay, thank you.
I have Phalaris 'Picta' and want to do an extraction to test it if its potent.
I have not a big amount of it and so want to know whats the least amount of Phalaris that would make sense to start an extraction with. So that i either can start now or know how much i still have to let it grow. Of course i want to start the extraction as soon as possible and not grow at first a field of it to have kilos, only if neccessary.

Okay, to simplify the question, does anybody have an idea how much of weak up to very weak phalaris arundinacea you need ca for an extraction to get 2 to 3 hits as a result?

Nobody can tell you that: If it is very weak, you would need acres of it. And if it contains nothing, not even the face of the world would be enough

BTW: I really like this tek:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=28869

But if you just wanna know, how much is in there, then first do a TLC, if there's anything at all. There you can also already guess roughly the potency.

okay just to be not in complete darkness, what is an average tryptamine content of phalaris arundinacea, with the numbers here in the wiki you can't really work, 0,0004 to 0,121, the difference is to big if every amount in between is same probable? Can you guess an average (middle) amount at all? Or are there really that vast differences in the arunduniaceas? There must be some kind of normal content or not? (sry for the unfine english )

I mean if you just go out and cut some wild phalaris arundinacea, what is probably a suitable (little) amount to do an extraction? some experiences?

I have the problem that i have to grow the phalaris picta i want to test and want to have an idea when it makes sense to stop? So that i dont face the case that i killed all the phalaris when i would have needed more, and also not waiting for it months or more when i could have results way earlier

By the way, i will do a TLC microanalysis in the time of growing (!) (i know there is not a very high probability that it's really potent, but IF that would be... (!) )

Yes



No

okay

With an arundinacea strain, real world you'll be lucky to get .01%, total alkaloid, if there DMT at all, it will only be a small fraction of this .01%. DMT may not be present at all, you may end up with a bunch of beta-carbolines and/or gramine.

For TLC or reagent testing you could get away with a under 100 grams just to see if there are tryptamines present at all. For an actual extraction that might yield you a tiny of puff of alkaloid goo you are probably looking at a kilo of fresh material minimum.

Phalaris really requires proper care to maximize tryptamine content, and even then arundinacea strains are extremely low in alkaloids naturally and that's just what it is.

P. aquatica and brachystachys naturally have higher alkaloid levels and more consistent tryptamine profiles, they are a much much better bet if you really want to pursue the grasses as a tryptamine source. You're really better off planting a few acacia trees though.

Thank you very much!
Is there the possibility to do some seed exchange here in the forum?
To trade acacia or P. brachystachys or aquatica seeds for some other ethnobotanical interesting seeds here in the forum?

Check out our sister forum @ http://www.sharetheseeds.me/forum/. You need to do a little intro essay to basically show you are not a bot or troll in order to be given access to the trade sections.

Be sure and use a different nickname than the one you use on the nexus to protect your privacy.

Hmm, I signed up a long time ago, wrote an intro and still don't see the trade sections. Didn't even know they existed until now!