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Confessions of a English datura eater. Options
 
Shall ba
#1 Posted : 9/12/2018 3:57:49 PM

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Datura has been my downfall for too long now. I first tried it on a trip to america it was like I was guided towards it. It was a lovely big bush of it. I noticed the seedpods and harvested some. I ate some seeds and had unbelievable experiences and feelings. I won't go into great detail but they where out of this world. And the crazyist thing is every thing feels completely normal. What I have noticed after all my years of taking it is bad memory loss and mind blackouts. When I had taken it in america I was completely set on hem and I don't know why. It was like they accepted me. Every year I go out hunting them. I also grow them from seed and worship them all the way. There are precise times to harvest them. I cannot wait for 2019. I am going to grow a lot more. The seeds are the strongest only needing 5 at a time. I strongly advise against extracting until the dosage is right. It is not just datura. Its the whole solancae family. Like solanums and henbane. They are all related to datura. But are a lot weaker apart from deadly nightshade.
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#2 Posted : 9/12/2018 11:38:14 PM

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Thank you for your perspective. It seems like you are being very careful, and I as well as most other people I'm sure would urge you caution. I have experienced mandrake root on quite a few occasions, mostly in very small doses, and by all accounts it is much more forgiving than datura. Still, I was feeling delirious rather than having psychedelic effects on higher doses.

I am glad to have gotten to know mandrake, and I won't take it completely out of my life. But this family of plants commands utmost respect. Have you considered making a "flying ointment" with datura and other plants instead of ingesting it? From my research (read and a bit experienced) it is much safer and "cleaner" when absorbed through the skin rather than ingested.

Please be careful, but thank you for bringing this topic to light.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/13/2018 12:01:43 AM

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Somehow this felt relevant:

Carlos Castaneda wrote:
"You see. The devil's weed is like that. She sneaks up on you like a woman. You are not even aware of it. All you care about is that she makes you feel good and powerful: the muscles swelling with vigour, the fistsitching, the soles of the feet burning to run somebody down. When a man knows her he really becomes full of cravings. My benefactor used to say that the devil's weed keeps men who wantpower, and gets rid of those who can't handle it. But power was more common then; it was sought more avidly. My benefactor was a powerful man, and according to what he told me, his benefactor, in turn, was even more given to the pursuit of power. But in those days there was good reason to be powerful."

"Do you think there is no reason for power nowadays?"

"Power is all right for you now. You are young. You are not an Indian. Perhaps the devil's weed would be in good hands. You seem to have liked it. It made you feel strong. I felt all that myself. And yet I didn't like it."

"Can you tell me why, don Juan?"

"I don't like its power! There is no use for it any more. In other times, like those my benefactor told me about, there was reason to seek power. Men performed phenomenal deeds, were admired for their strength and feared and respected for their knowledge. My benefactor told me stories of truly phenomenal deeds that were performed long, long ago. But now we, the Indians, do not seek that power any more. Nowadays, the Indians use the weed to rub themselves. They use the leaves and flowers for other matters; they even say it cures their boils.But they do not seek its power, a power that acts like a magnet, more potent and more dangerous to handle as the root goes deeper into the ground. When one arrives to a depth of four yards - and they say some people have -one finds the seat of permanent power, power without end. Very few humans have done this in the past, and nobody has done it today. I'm telling you, the power of the devil's weed is no longer needed by us, the Indians.Little by little, I think we have lost interest, and now power does not matter any more. I myself do not seek it,and yet at one time, when I was your age, I too felt its swelling inside me. I felt the way you did today, only five hundred times more strongly. I killed a man with a single blow of my arm. I could toss boulders, huge boulders not even twenty men could budge. Once I jumped so high I chopped the top leaves off the highest trees. But it was all for nothing! All I did was frighten the Indians - only the Indians. The rest who knew nothing about it did not believe it. They saw either a crazy Indian, or something moving at the top of the trees."

We were silent for a long time. I needed to say something.

"It was different when there were people in the world," he proceeded, "people who knew a man could become a mountain lion, or a bird, or that a man could simply fly. So I don't use the devil's weed any more. For what? To frighten the Indians? [Para que? Para asustar a los indios?]

"And I saw him sad, and a deep empathy filled me. I wanted to say something to him, even if it was a platitude.

"Perhaps, don Juan, that is the fate of all men who want to know."

"Perhaps," he said quietly.

Perhaps
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