Hey everybody! This is my first post on dmt nexus so I am posting this here rather than in the 5-meo/Bufo subforum. I have tried twice to extract freebase BUfotenine from Cebil seedswith two different texts, first with the infamous erowid one (before I knew it was spurious) and then with 69ron's simplest tek here (shout out to 69ron). Both times I got less than 100mg of inactive material. I then tried preparing the snuff as one usually does and soaking the snuff in 91% iso and evaporating onto caapi leaves. A fat bongload did nothing. THEN I just tried to snuff the stuff and got nothing besides a very subtle, value neutral body load.

Can anyone with experience help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? I would very much like to experience the visual immersion that Bufotenine is supposed to offer. I take 40 mg of fluoxetine (prozac) almost daily (i forget with unfortunate regularly, thankfully prozac in particular is forgiving of such foolishness) but IME this does not have an inhibitory effect on my ability to trip, I can trip just fine on the myriad other tryptamines I have been playing with since I started on the meds. Is there any reason Bufotenine would be different?

Thanks and nice to meet you!

The only thing i can think of, is that you just have very weak or inactive seeds.

You can try the traditional method of preparation (making paste with roasted crushed seeds and lime and dry it for a day or so). Then snort the equivalent of 1-2 seeds.

It's nastier than extract, of course, but at least you will know.

Or you can send your extract to Energy Control or other lab for analysis.

I've extracted bufotine that I confirmed by GC-MS analysis and never got anything other then a vaso constrictive / head ache off it. I think some people don't absorb this drug well or have different blood brain barrier or some other metabolic different that makes them not really get high on it. I smoked it though might be different if I snorted / ingested somehow. Not a fan personally.

In my experience, there is a sort of threshold with bufotenin, and you need to get over it to get any effects. The first time i smoked yopo seeds, i got some mild nausea only. The sevond time i smoked twice as much, i think half a teaspoon of powdered yopo, and it worked.

I think jamie had a simmilar experience.

The reports mentioned above involved 3 different batches of Cebil so unless the whole market is saturated with bunk, i don't think it's a matter of seed potency. I have a bunch to work with so I'll keep experimenting with different teks. When I snuffed i I didn't let it dry for a whole day like you said, maybe that's the issue. I hope I'm not constitutionally immune

Yes. From low to moderate doses I experienced only vaso-effects, shortness of breath, dizziness and tachycardia.

The only time I felt real psychedelic effects were the first time I basically overdosed by snorting 650 mg of yopo snuff. There were running stripes and very confusing and scary downfall into an abyss - then something like crashing to a glass wall in ultrasound speed. If you seen Interstellar, where Cooper falls into the Gargantua black hole... well something like that

It was like if I almost died and peaked to the other side. It was very scary.

However, the comedown was very pleasant and I felt cleansed and fresh.