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Cactus Man
#1 Posted : 7/5/2018 9:49:05 PM
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Ingredients

28oz coconut oil
1.5 cups of water
150g lye
3-4oz honey
few spoonfuls of cinnamon

Process

mix your lye into your distilled water
mix lye solution with coconut oil
stir
after a while of stirring add in honey and cinnamon
stir more
after stirring for a long time the solution will become like pudding
pour into molds and let sit for 24-48 hours in a dry place
pop out of molds and let sit for 15-30 days to cure
 

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#2 Posted : 7/5/2018 10:35:21 PM

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Hey dude thank you for the recipe,

You may know but it could be precised, there are online saponification calculator that can help to make a recipe with some attribute in function of ingredients. We can do a soap more hard, more cleaning, more smooth depending of the ingredients an oil type used.
I like this one http://soapcalc.net/calc/soapcalcwp.asp as you have a lot of choice for the ingredients.
Another advice while making soap, is uuntil you put your soap paste in your mold, let it sit for 24H until reaction finished, then you may let your unmolded soap above 30 days for drying.
This way you saop may have nearly 0 harmfull component and fully safe for your skin.

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#3 Posted : 7/5/2018 10:59:58 PM

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Ok I'm definitely making some soap...lately I've been giving a lot of money buying organic soap with olive oil and lemon oil, and I feel like making my own would definitely be the better option.

Thanks to pastanostra and Cactus Man! Thumbs up
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Cactus Man
#4 Posted : 7/10/2018 9:16:40 PM
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Its a general rule to let the soap cure (oxidize) for a month before use to get the most out of it. Thumbs up
 
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#5 Posted : 8/1/2018 8:26:54 PM
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Currently attempting to make my first batch of organic coconut lavender liquid soap.

If the results are good I will post the recipe Big grin
 
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#6 Posted : 8/2/2018 2:30:21 AM

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This is great, thanks! Thumbs up
 
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#7 Posted : 8/2/2018 9:03:07 AM

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Cactus Man wrote:
Currently attempting to make my first batch of organic coconut lavender liquid soap.

If the results are good I will post the recipe Big grin


Fingers crossed bro, can't wait! I've always found liquid soap more convenient than the solid one.

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#8 Posted : 9/10/2018 3:12:22 PM

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It is easy to mix and cook your hard homemade soap in some water to form a kind of gel (liquid soap).

If you use potassium hydroxide instead of sodium hydroxide you will get a soft cream like soap (proportions are different).

If you put your mold in freezer it will just slow down the reaction. I don't see the utility.

Take care of the proportions Pleased
 
Cactus Man
#9 Posted : 11/20/2018 3:37:27 PM
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Yea you are right I ended up realizing the freezer is not as helpful as I had first thought.

Been experimenting with different soap recipes for a bit now and have been getting better/more experienced at soap making.
 
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#10 Posted : 4/28/2019 4:05:15 PM
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Wanted to mention be careful to only use a small amount of essential oils when adding them to soaps, I ended up using a bit too much with my lavender batch and it didnt cure very well, it was still effective as soap but didnt come out as well as some of the batches I did without any essential oils.
 
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#11 Posted : 4/28/2019 10:47:55 PM

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If anyone out there is thinking of making liquid soap, and really wants to be as organic as possible, you can make your own potash from wood ashes and roasted snail shells. These two will react to form crude potassium hydroxide once water is added. I was discussing this with an organic soap maker earlier today, at the exact time you posted, Cactus Man!

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#12 Posted : 10/21/2019 1:01:18 AM
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Ahh yes! Synchronicity is what I'm all about. Big grin

I never made soap with potash but that indeed is quite similar to lye.

Been sharing my soap with tons of people to this day. Cool
 
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#13 Posted : 12/1/2020 6:07:01 PM

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downwardsfromzero wrote:
If anyone out there is thinking of making liquid soap, and really wants to be as organic as possible, you can make your own potash from wood ashes and roasted snail shells. These two will react to form crude potassium hydroxide once water is added. I was discussing this with an organic soap maker earlier today, at the exact time you posted, Cactus Man!

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Is this somehow preferable to just soaking wood ashes and using the water? It seems like more effort for the same result.
 
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#14 Posted : 12/1/2020 6:16:57 PM

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RoundAbout wrote:
downwardsfromzero wrote:
If anyone out there is thinking of making liquid soap, and really wants to be as organic as possible, you can make your own potash from wood ashes and roasted snail shells. These two will react to form crude potassium hydroxide once water is added. I was discussing this with an organic soap maker earlier today, at the exact time you posted, Cactus Man!

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Is this somehow preferable to just soaking wood ashes and using the water? It seems like more effort for the same result.


Same result as mixing wood ashes and sea shells ? you mean skipping sea shells cause thats the only difference you give here ?
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rOm wrote:
Same result as mixing wood ashes and sea shells ? you mean skipping sea shells cause thats the only difference you give here ?


Yeah. Wood ashes are mainly calcium carbonate, some of which in calcinated to lime (CaO). Roasting snail shells (which are also just calcium carbonate) also calcinates them to lime. Soaking wood ashes converts the potash (K2CO3) present in the ash to KOH in solution (precipitating CaCO3... salt metathesis reaction). Evaporating it produces potash again. You can react the potash with lime (e.g. from the roast snail shells) to produce actual KOH by evaporating it (again precipitating CaCO3, which you would remove the liquid along with the shell material from before evaporating) to use later though. I imagine it's a lot less crude to do it this way (especially important if you're actually trying to be exact), and you could store the KOH much more conveniently than ash water.

I guess I kind of answered my own question (I think). I've used ash water and fat to wash dishes when camping, so that's what my mind went to initially rather than a nice household product.
 
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RoundAbout wrote:
downwardsfromzero wrote:
If anyone out there is thinking of making liquid soap, and really wants to be as organic as possible, you can make your own potash from wood ashes and roasted snail shells. These two will react to form crude potassium hydroxide once water is added. I was discussing this with an organic soap maker earlier today, at the exact time you posted, Cactus Man!

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Is this somehow preferable to just soaking wood ashes and using the water? It seems like more effort for the same result.

The only extra effort is collecting the snail shells - and, I suppose, throwing them into the fire while it's burning. The additional amount of calcium hydroxide from the shells makes for a greater conversion from carbonate to hydroxide. Sea shells are similar, and usually thicker.

Typically, one would collect the shells while doing something else - gardening or lounging on the beach - so the extra effort is pretty minimal.




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downwardsfromzero wrote:
The only extra effort is collecting the snail shells - and, I suppose, throwing them into the fire while it's burning. The additional amount of calcium hydroxide from the shells makes for a greater conversion from carbonate to hydroxide. Sea shells are similar, and usually thicker.

Typically, one would collect the shells while doing something else - gardening or lounging on the beach - so the extra effort is pretty minimal.


I suppose my question arose partially from not realizing that a shell set in a fire is heated more effectively than the ash layer below it. I only see shells in what you might call swamps, but egg shells work also. I can't think of a super easy way to heat the ash otherwise (other than using/making something to contain the ash, i.e. a crucible).
 
 
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