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NurfMeToTheMoon
#1 Posted : 7/22/2018 3:07:19 PM

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Good afternoon/morning all hope all is well.

I'm planning on taking some shrooms with my brother a couple of mates in the coming week, & have done them several times before however I no longer smoke weed due to it always putting me in a pretty bad headspace after I quit & then tried going back, it's just never been the same unfortunately - could be an entire topic on its own in all honesty Smile

But I loved the days of smoking while tripping due to it's ability to take the trip to a new level especially in terms of OEV's & for me CEV's (I have little to no minds eye so having any form of CEV's is a really special experience for me).

I've read a couple of post of people smoking changa with shrooms & being blasted out into a different dimension which sounds absolutely fantastic but a one of the fella's tripping with me & my brother has never tripped, & the other one only once on a low dose so I want to able to remain somewhat intact with reality in case they need any guidance/help/comfort ect.

So does anyone have any experience smoking small amounts of changa & not blasting off, if so what are the visuals like & so forth, will it put me in a similar headspace like cannabis or will I remain relatively clear minded?

Should note that I will most likely be taking around 6g of golden caps if that's of any relavance.

Hope this isn't to much hassle to read so far haha, looking forward to your responses.
 

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#2 Posted : 7/22/2018 6:01:14 PM

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Just back from a burn where that was the "mainstay".

Changa was "ayahuasca" recipe. (Modification on some advice from Dreamor)

Admixture:
DMT:Harm 5:1

Leaf:
Caapi 50% :Chaponga 10% :Viridis 30% : Lemon Balm 10%

Leaf:Admixture 1:1

The journey was many things to many people, from aroused to weeping. I was told a few people made it over, but they did 4-5 hits. It is very dreamy, and the great part about it is, you don't have to buy the ticket until you want to get on the ride. So you can wait for the perfect time.

For me specifically, I enter the Atman state. It's about getting to the next thing wrong with me that I need to change to be the person "my greater self" wants me to become.

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Sunnyside
#3 Posted : 7/23/2018 6:03:09 PM

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NurfMeToTheMoon wrote:
.... but a one of the fella's tripping with me & my brother has never tripped, & the other one only once on a low dose so I want to able to remain somewhat intact with reality in case they need any guidance/help/comfort ect.

From my perspective, this is an important part, you clearly have a sense of responsibility for your partners, and you know you'll be keeping an eye on them.
If you had serious doubts, you'd probably not be exploring with them, so odds are, everyone will be fine.
But that's something you will assess during your adventures.

So, assuming all is going well (if not, you'll make adjustments as you go) -

NurfMeToTheMoon wrote:
So does anyone have any experience smoking small amounts of changa & not blasting off, if so what are the visuals like & so forth, will it put me in a similar headspace like cannabis or will I remain relatively clear minded?
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Hope this isn't to much hassle to read so far haha, looking forward to your responses.

As the Metashaman indicates - absolutely.

I consider DMT / Changa a very important part of exploring with other substances, such as Psilocybin and LSD, among others. If I'm spending that kind of time, I want to combine the experiences. As you say, you don't need breakthrough doses. Start small, explore, stay comfortable, wander around - mentally and physically - there can just be so much to experience. Very worthwhile.

Good luck to you and your gang, I hope you are able to make the most of it.

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NurfMeToTheMoon
#4 Posted : 7/23/2018 6:40:28 PM

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Sunnyside wrote:

From my perspective, this is an important part, you clearly have a sense of responsibility for your partners, and you know you'll be keeping an eye on them.
If you had serious doubts, you'd probably not be exploring with them, so odds are, everyone will be fine.
But that's something you will assess during your adventures.

So, assuming all is going well (if not, you'll make adjustments as you go) -


Thanks a lot actually when you put it this way it sounds perfectly reasonable & you're completely right I wouldn't go exploring with them if I felt they weren't ready or so forth.

I will definitely start at a small dose of Changa & see how it goes then I'll also provide some feedback after my experience for anyone else who is interested in low doses of Changa on shrooms as there doesn't appear to be an awful lot about it.

Peace Smile
 
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NurfMeToTheMoon wrote:


So does anyone have any experience smoking small amounts of changa & not blasting off, if so what are the visuals like & so forth, will it put me in a similar headspace like cannabis or will I remain relatively clear minded?



Changa is the preferred method for wading into hyperspace. Unlike freebase, you can take several tiny hits to work your way up to the threshold if you like and then either let it taper or hit it again to break through. It's a very controllable way to partake, and since you know it's controllable, it helps immensely with your state of mind, which in turn helps immensely with the quality of the experience.
 
 
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