Hi everyone, I'm not sure where I went wrong here but every pull I'm doing is only giving me straight viscous yellow oil.... I'm pretty sure there isn't any DMT at all. I've used this bark before with a simple a/b and got 2% yield so I know it's good. It's MHRB

This is what i did, I will put "*" next to where I think I screwed up.

-freeze thawed bark + water 4x
-added vinegar and boiled. Tarry substance occurred but was not discarded
-pH wasn't high enough so I added HCl****
-left hot for 8 hrs
-added lye and solution turned black
- soln cooled and hot naphtha is added
-3 pulls and I only pulled plant fat

My only theory is that adding vinegar + HCl messed something up.

Another theory is that not enough dmt was salt when it was boiled so dmt melted away

Another theory is that pH is not high enough....add more lye and try pulling again? I put 75g of lye so I feel like it must be basic enough!!

What did I do wrong??? My first extraction went amazing but I can't pull anything out of this batch.....and I used 150g bark any help is appreciated!

I should note on my first extraction with the bark I ended up with beautiful translucent crystals. I'm just not sure why it's coming out as oil, maybe it all oxidized when it was being freeze thawed

Wrote a long post on how to backsalt, then realized it was MHRB.
It may still work, its not a long process either.. Basically redoing the pull with clean water.
Look up "BackSalt" on the forums, it may be that the bark has been hammered harder than usual so it's adding a lot of fats.

I forgot to mention in my post that I did add salt. Right after the acid cook and it was noniodized. Still no xtals thank you for my response!

Thank you I'm gonna look into this tomorrow!

I have a new theory on why I didn't get any xtals. I added naoh pellets directly into the reaction vessel because I was running out of room. This made the system incredibly hot for a long time and I think it may have destroyed all of the alkaloids. I still haven't looked into the back salting post yet though so I will get back to you guys

Ikr thank you for your suggestion still, I appreciate it

Can anyone confirm I destroyed the alkaloids by directly adding naoh to my soln? It's the only thing that makes sense, I'm at a loss here!

I'm not sure about too much lye destroying the solution but I have also had mixed results with the salt Tek. Sometimes it good sometimes it's goo, and one time nothing at all similar to your experience now.

This past week I tried another tek - marsfolds, no extra steps and I got the purest dmt I've ever extracted thus far.

Thanks for the reply. It's just really weird, there is dmt in this bark and the same procedure has produced good results before. I think I'm gonna look into marsofolds, thank you! Or even just stick stb from now on

This proves why it's good to do multiple small extractions rather than one big extraction cuz mistakes do happen!!

If an experienced chemist/extractor could chime in I would highly appreciate it!

My main questions for you experienced people:

-did mixing HCl and vinegar fuck something up?

- did adding naoh directly to the system heat it up too much that it destroyed the alkaloids? The vessel got so hot I was worried it was gonna shatter. It never boiled though. Maybe all the ions and other compunds in the mix raised the bp of water because of stronger IMFs?

I'm no scientist but I'm so curious what I did wrong and if there's anything I can do to fix it.

Thanks!

Did you give the bottle or whatever container You were using, 4 "shakes", to let naphta capture dmt from black liquid?