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Metashaman
#1 Posted : 5/17/2018 11:02:44 PM

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If I don't take enough Pharma or Aya, I get to this place where I get to hang out with my greater self who poses questions and has answers or remarks about the things I am doing and the direction I am heading in. It's the consolation prize for missing hyperspace by tea. However, I still love it, just for the realization factor and I am pretty hard on myself. I usually work through a lot there. It asks me the hardest questions and it is truly my harshest critic, but again it's me so it's hard to argue and not just agree.

I have found I can tap into this place with meditation and a small 15mg-20mg dose of changa. I thought it was a fluke last time I missed HS smoalking, but today I was trying to get there purposely and did.. It lasts about 5-10 minutes, but really seems like it can be a soft "touch" back to introspection when you've been away too long.

Anyone else have this experience?

It may be a fluke and just happened to get there twice in 2 weeks.
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pitubo
#2 Posted : 5/18/2018 12:26:14 AM

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Metashaman wrote:
Anyone else have this experience?

Not sure if I get to the exact same places as you, but sure, meditative changa is wonderful.

My favorite accompanying music for it is this gem by Pannalal Ghosh.
 
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#3 Posted : 5/18/2018 12:38:39 AM

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pitubo wrote:

My favorite accompanying music for it is this gem by Pannalal Ghosh.

Gorgeous, Thank you.
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#4 Posted : 5/18/2018 3:04:55 AM

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I like some oral hramalas as well before changa. It significantly slows the journey and makes it last up to 2 hours,

Softer, sweeter, moar time to contemplate and then lay in the fractal purple bliss afterwards whilst everything is being put back in place. Love
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#5 Posted : 5/18/2018 3:46:24 AM

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Northerner wrote:
I like some oral hramalas as well before changa. It significantly slows the journey and makes it last up to 2 hours,

Softer, sweeter, moar time to contemplate and then lay in the fractal purple bliss afterwards whilst everything is being put back in place. Love


That sounds kinda dreamy... no purging bu mini aya in a way that will stick in your mind for a week instead of a few hours. I love that spot.... It's very clear there. Unlike any other psychedelic.

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#6 Posted : 5/18/2018 11:46:42 AM

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Maybe 150mg harmalas followed maybe 2 hours later by 80-100mg 50/50/30 changa... so 35-40mg DMT.

Kinda half aya dose-ish, but with freebase comeup.

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pitubo
#7 Posted : 5/18/2018 12:23:12 PM

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Reading back the OP and the replies, I realize that I failed to mention how I am particularly fond of repeatedly smoalking bits of changa, spaced apart by 20 - 30 minutes. Because of the harmalas, only tiny successive hits are needed to keep the tapestry afloat at the desired velocity and altitude.

It is an entirely different experience to be gently floating a longer time, compared to being shot out of a cannon when vaping straight freebase.
 
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#8 Posted : 5/18/2018 12:51:49 PM

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great way to fly
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#9 Posted : 5/18/2018 4:05:56 PM

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Had a good talk with one of the SM's here. Apparently I stumbled upon a not-well-known-secret that a lot of you already know Smile "Yeah man I prefer it that way with a breakthrough every few month to a couple of times a year". Meditation and Prayer.

Pitubo, Northerner. Thank you very much for the responses.
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