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4th time smoking dmt... still having a hard time taking it in the day after Options
 
DmtProphecy
#1 Posted : 4/26/2018 6:14:30 PM

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PRE-CONDITIONS
(mind)Set:

A bit anxious about what was to come but ok.


(physical condition) Set:

Feeling normal.

Setting (location):

King size bed


time of day: (12 or 24 hour system, daylight? starlight? overcast?)

Dusk

recent drug use: (list also any kind of medication)

Suboxone was taken earlier that morning 2 mg sublingal, contains naloxone

last meal: (Time and type)

Fast food a few hours prior

PARTICIPANT
Gender: (m / f)

Female

body weight: (in kg pls)

52kg

known sensitivities:
history of use: (experienced, novice, first timer - in general and for this specific substance/form)

BIOASSAY

Substance(s): (list all taken substances)
Dose(s): (in the same order as Substances pls, use metric system i.e. g/ mg/ �g)
Method of administration: (dissolved in water, capsuls, insufflated, vaporized...)


This is my fourth time with dmt

EFFECTS

Administration time: T=0:00 (expand this if you used delayed administration for multiple substances or the same substance with multiple doses. Use indices.)
Duration: (x hours)
First effects:
Peak: (estimate a time range and note as e.g. T=2:00-4:00 for a range of 2 hours beginning 2 hours after administration)
Come down:
Baseline:

Intensity (overall): (use HRS-like scale i.e. 0-4: 0 = "Not at all;" 1 = "Slightly;" 2 = "Moderately;" 3 = "Quite a bit;" 4 = "Extremely."Pleased
Evaluation / notes:

4 extreamly

OPTIONAL
Pleasantness: (0-4) Differed throughout the experience 3
Implesantness: (0-4) Differed throughout the experience 4
Visual Intensity: (0-4) 3
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AFTER-EFFECTS

Hangover: (0-4 ; what type of impleasantness ; duration)
Afterglow: (0-4 ; what type of positive effects ; duration)

Feeling as if I'm in shock from seeing something unbelievable

REPORT

(write your trip report as you would normally write it here)

Hope I did the above correct.

I had made a new machine. Apparently my previous one was way too large even though it was a single serving. I also had bought a torch lighter which i would be trying for the first time as opposed to a regular lighter.

I attempted to heat the pipe from the sides because I hear it prevents burning but hardly any smoke came out for two hits. Maybe my glass is too thick. For the third hit, I placed the flame beneath it and it managed to create a billow within the bottle from surprisingly far away from it.

I inhaled the hit. Everything in the background seemed super quiet. Everything felt wrong, unnatural and extreamly confusing. He continued to try to get me to take anther hit. I tried but didn't understand. It was causing extreme stress not understanding so I pushed it away.im never doing this again crossed my mind. Extreme panic set in as i just wanted this unnatural stage to end so badly. I just don't want you to be disappointed he said. He came close to me for comfort. Actually, you might already be there he said. I could tell he wasn't sure if I had or not. It seemed like this part lasted an eternity.

Am I there?, I wondered. Fractals and light were everywhere so that it became difficult to see the room. It was very intense. I closed my eyes and saw brightly colored fractals. Suddenly I realize that I don't know if my eyes are open or closed. I see the same thing no matter what. Brightly colored fractals moving all around me. I feel his body melting into the bed. He has disintegrated. Everything was vibrating strongly.

I begin to let myself go and accept what is to happen next. Light now shined through the fractals. Pieces of me began to disintegrate until I ceased to exist. I had no memory of my human self, my human life or anyone that I once knew. I had become the patterns and I existed as them. I had become everything. I was not all knowing though... i only knew that i was and nothing more. There was no fear. It was a sort of euphoria in a way but at the same time indifference.

Piece by piece "I" came back together.I membered my trip partner. Do you see bright colors?, he asked. Yes i said. They looked like a flowing liquid. I felt around on the bed as he phased in and out of existence until he was just there. I said I love you, i love you. I disappeared but I'm back now and I'm so glad to have you i said. The experience was still very intense. I didn't want him to disappear so told him I wanted to lay on him. Then I did. At that point I felt love and happiness. At this point it quickly wore off.

Xxxxxxx

I didn't see any beings and don't know if I broke through. I'm not disappointed about that though. What Is really turning me off from dmt is that unnatural/ wrong/ extreamly confusing stage I was in before the bright lights occured. Must one pass through this stage every time or is it possible to skip it entirely?

I paced around a lot trying to take it all in afterwards. I'm still in shock (not necessarily a, bad thing). I can't rationalize what happened though and don't know what to think about it.
 

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Astonish
#2 Posted : 4/26/2018 7:13:38 PM

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That sounds nice, you are getting closer.
Now that you tested 1 actual good hit with 2 small ones, maybe try 2 big ones; Terence suggests 2 + 1 last gigantic hit then close your eyes and lay back.
I usually sit in a Buddhist meditation form rather than laying down. Just find what works for you.
I personally encounter entity(s) 100% of the time, & they always want to teach, or help me.
It does get substantially more intense, so keep that in mind; be mentally prepared and make sure you want to before upping the dosage.
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Fidelsbeard
#3 Posted : 4/26/2018 7:57:39 PM

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DMTProphecy, may I ask if you are able to accurately measure your doses? Go at your own pace, maybe consider starting low and building up gradually to get used to the feeling, maybe try changa/enhanced leaf as it is easier to smoke the whole dose. You should not feel that you have to push for a breakthrough, you will know when you are ready...be safe Smile
 
DmtProphecy
#4 Posted : 4/26/2018 8:39:32 PM

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I wish I knew how much I did. I've ordered a scale to measure these smaller quantities but don't have it yet. No place that I know sells them and due to my schedule it would be hard to pick one up even if somewhere did carry one. I had pre melted about 1/4 of a tsp ( it was loose in the measuring spoon and not packed) and it's highly likely there is enough for a few more intense experiences left in it. Its impossible for me to say how much is in there once it's melted in the mesh. When I had pre melted it, I had to press it into the sides of the mesh as the inside was not warming from the flame.

I ordered a vapor genie and it's on its way. I'm afraid to use this route of administration however. Im confident I can get enough in quickly enough with the machine the next time. I'm afraid there could be a learning curve to the vapor genie and really don't want to get stuck in the unnatural/ wrong/ confusing stage with it. I'm not sure what I'll do yet.

I'm thinking about trying a glass of wine to relax me just in case i pass through that stage again.
 
Fidelsbeard
#5 Posted : 4/26/2018 9:03:50 PM

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If it weighs down to 0.010 then it's perfect Smile Enhanced leaf is easy to make and easy to smoalk in a bong: light carefully so not to burn,when bowl cherries smoalk slowly the whole bowl,hold in,lie back,in dark,eyes closed..enjoy Twisted Evil
 
DmtProphecy
#6 Posted : 4/26/2018 9:06:53 PM

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Fidelsbeard wrote:
DMTProphecy, may I ask if you are able to accurately measure your doses? Go at your own pace, maybe consider starting low and building up gradually to get used to the feeling, maybe try changa/enhanced leaf as it is easier to smoke the whole dose. You should not feel that you have to push for a breakthrough, you will know when you are ready...be safe Smile


You mention it gets more intense. I'm ok with that. Its just the 'type' of intensity that I'm concerned about. Before the bright lights started... i really did NOT like that stage. After that passed,it was not necessarily less intense. Perhaps it was even more intense but in a pleasant and more natural way. I think I'm ready to go further but I don't think I'll ever get used to or come to like that particular weird and unpleasant stage.
 
Fidelsbeard
#7 Posted : 4/26/2018 9:20:07 PM

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I see what you mean, lower doses could maybe help you to get used to that feeling, it could just have been apprehension but that may always be there beforehand but you get used to it and the feeling changes over time Thumbs up
 
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#8 Posted : 4/27/2018 9:11:24 PM

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DmtProphecy wrote:
...Pieces of me began to disintegrate until I ceased to exist. I had no memory of my human self, my human life or anyone that I once knew. I had become the patterns and I existed as them. I had become everything. I was not all knowing though... i only knew that i was and nothing more. There was no fear. It was a sort of euphoria in a way but at the same time indifference...




This passage right here^^^^ indicates to me that you traversed fairly far in, i.e. total ego dissolution and IMHO is what I would consider a breakthrough experience.

Correct me if I am incorrectly interpreting what you wrote here DmtProphecy.

Just because you didn't see/feel/experience any entities doesn't mean that you didn't break through into hyperspace, but again, that is just my opinion.

However, I have several hundred DMT breakthrough experiences under my belt (not to mention the obscene amounts of other psychedelics I have ingested over almost four decades) and I know all too well that it can always be more intense, that there is no end to the infinite rabbit hole that is the DMT hyperspace realm.

With that said, best of luck on your future travels! Be safe and be kind to yourself! Very happy

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