Hi nexians

As my dog has no possibility on do his own extracts for now, he was gifted with some dmt fb.

But he barked me that tried a little sublingually and it burns the tongue. He barked that last 1 minute or so, but it was tolerable

He know it was extracted with naoh and naphta.

It's normal or safe for oral ingestion?

Also, the dmt is yellow and white only crystals, no presence of others particles.

Thanks to all

Woof!

Please send 50$ to the nexus 'donate' and you're spice will be fine.
Seriously, how can people here conclude on potential NaOh contamination of your gifted spice?

Hey,

I've had spice that burned when I tasted it and I'm almost entirely sure there was no lye contamination. I'm not sure what the burn was from but it was definitely there. It was fine to vaporize though and if used orally, which didn't happen except in fairly low doses, it was used with orange juice and was fine other than a maybe a little stomach discomfort.

The purpose of the topic is to share with the newbies the fact of dmt.fb 'burning' properties when you put a little under your tongue. And if experimented users can say if the burning is a contamination issue or no.

Learn. Share. Expand

Cheers

So you say that not all dmt you tested caused a little burning (feel)?

I think it's an important thing for who are trying for their first times. Specially when it comes oral.

Thanks

Freebase, by definition is a base, high alkaline, caustic compound. That’s why it burns. You’re supposed to convert it to a salt in order to render a safe for oral ingestion product.

Read more topics on the forum, I swear it’s worth every last second spent doing it.

Yes, believe me I read a lot, really a lot on this forum. But nowhere people are talking about the burning taste in dmt fb sublingual test. There's a lot of post about burning in intranasal roa.

The question is if that burning could be contamns or it's just normal on fb.


Anyway, my dog will try oral dmt (after caapi alks) dissolved in Orange juice. Could be grapefruit pure juice? (from a real grapefruit not anything packed bought on a store). My dog love pure grapefruit juice.

Also, caapi alks freebase also make his tongue burns, but dmt fb burns twice.

Cheers

DMT free base is, as Lumina says, a, uh, base. Like lye, which is often used in its preparation, but given even a rudimentary level of competence should not end up in the final product. The product is still highly alkaline. Many other free amine bases would cause a similar burning effect.

If you have any concerns regarding the purity (or indeed, identity) of your sample taking steps to purify (and identify) it might be prudent and would at least be instructive.

Arguably, the same would apply to your caapi alkaloids.


Using orange juice to dissolve the alkaloids mitigates both their intrinsic basicity and that of any alkaline contaminants carried over from their preparation. Grapefruit juice is similarly acidic but its Cyt-P450 inhibiting properties may slow the metabolism of some the caapi alkaloids somewhat, likely increasing the duration of their effects.

It won't do anything about non-alkaline contaminants, of course.

Why doesn't it burn the air passages when smoalked? I found smoalked DMT extremely harsh and I couldn't keep it in. I presumed that this was due to inexperience as it isn't something most people complain of.

Local concentration is lower.

Ok, lets expand better then: dmt fb is a base (a said), and NaOh is a base. So it burns on your tongue, how can we advise here where exactly that burn comes from? Nobody sane here is going to take a stake on the quality of your gifted spice because there is no idea how they took care about potential NaOh contamination. You might ask how it was extracted and if they incorporated a (carbonate)water wash before crystallizing then you can be pretty sure there's no NaOh contam issue.
A bit of a guide is dark spots, if there are dark spots it leans toward potential lye contamination. There's a reason the general tone is to extract yourself, then you know how it came to be.
Happy trials!