toast -> sodium carbonate -> isopropyl (91%) has been SWIM's go-to method for extracting bufotenine for the past few months. It's mandatory for SWIM to predose with theobromine, though, as something in this crude extract is rather vasoconstricting for her.

Hmm. How much theobromine? Yerba mate has something like 0.5% theo and caffeine as well, but therapeutic doses are higher iirc.

yerba mate works fine for me or a small ammount of coffe..

You can also space your doses out, 2 minutes apart or something..after the first dose, you start to become tolerant to the vasoconstriction.

I would do more than 1 toast though. I toast, base, toast, pull with iso, evapand toast again..then pull again if you wish.

well my vilca changa seems to work VERY well..10 grams of caapi extracted and 30 vilva seeds extracted and evapped onto a base of sage, mugwort and mint..holy man..

Took 2 small hits and felt only a mild buzzing at first..seems to be slowed down by the harmamlas..got into the bath and it started to hit harder, mild visuals everywhere with body euphoria and an irresistable urge to sing or vocalise..which then brought it up a level..

must be like 40 minutes in now and still feel like I am peaking..

feels better than bufo alone, lasts alot longer it seems and feels more like ayahuasca..more mind heavy s well.

These were vey small hits I took also only as a test.

also giving me slight nausea now but no vasoconstriction at all, even at the beginning..weird. It's only light nausea maybe it's just me. I think it may be from the music Iam listening to.

SWIM has found that harmala alkaloids will increase the likelihood of getting nausea from the impurities present in Vilca or Yopo. They will prolong it too. 1-3 Datura stramonium seeds should block it very effectively.

The first time SWIM smoked ground peganum harmala seeds and then smoked an impure bufotenine extract, he got quite a lot of nausea, and it lasted a good 10 minutes. But this gave way to a VERY NICE experience. The visuals were fantastic and very dream-like.

THH, harmine, and harmaline are all are vasodilators and will very effectively counteract the vasoconstriction of bufotenine.

Would like to add here, last night I tried my new Vaporstar with a mix of enhanced caapi leaf, some homegrown ganja leaf and IPA bufo extract. I smoked a fair bit, maybe 15-20 hits (also trying to learn how to use the vaporstar properly).

It comes on slowly, gently. I did not feel much vasoconstriction,, just a slight tightness. I got some really good visuals, both open and close eye. Close eye is a bit like TV interference with imagery coming through it. I went to bed and had a fairly deep experience... lots of detailed animated visions, and communication with a female entity, who was giving me some wise words. I woke up this morning not remembering much of unfortunately.
In some ways I think I preffered it to DMT... its more gentle.

Yeah! I see where you're coming from here. It always remind me of static and fire. They seem to move like fire rather than the smooth shape shifting of NN DMT.

I still haven't got all the way with this stuff, but hopefully soon

SWIM finds the visuals are very jumpy and "electric", sort of like static at first. That statement that “close eye is a bit like TV interference with imagery coming through it” is definitely true for a threshold visionary dose. At a higher dose the visions are more well defined, but there always seems to be a backdrop of static-like texture.

Also, “static and fire” is a good description.

For SWIM, the visuals are really nothing like DMT visuals which are soft, smooth, pastel like. Bufotenine visuals are harsh, jagged, not soft at all, and have a pulsating, flashing, static-like, electric quality to them and are usually fast moving.

At high doses, SWIM often experiences traveling at high speeds through a “universe” of images and sounds which then leads to a more coherent dream-like vision with lots of meaning in it.

What I liked about it, was its similarity to ayahuasca - whereby you can be open eyes with subtle visuals going on, doing stuff if you need to, and then close your eyes, relax and go into the visions. DMT I find, is either/or, and I find threshold doses a bit confusing, DMT is much more satisfying on full breakthrough. I will refine my technique with bufo to try a full breakthrough dose soon. It seems to be a good teacher, or at least puts one in contact with wise entities (did for me anyway).

Also found an interesting looking tek for extraction on erowid: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=64707

I have yet to fully break through with bufo as well..but I always get the feeling it's possible..haven't seen any entities yet either. Mostly with eyes closed I get that static and a strobing with visuals sort of popping in and out of the static..

the entity
I did not see
it was just a voice
a calming female voice

Ah So Balaganist, you get sounds from bufotenine too just like SWIM?

Yes .. I get sounds.
Slightly similar to hearing stuff when on strong cannabis, but more 'real' I guess, in that the sounds seem to be more external on bufo while on cannabis they feel more like the product of the mind.

I need to explore this stuff further!

I get sounds also when in silence but nothing well defined yet..more of a strange ringing pitch..and if I listen to it it seems to make more visuals..

This stuff is awesome!

Just smoked 3 large hits of my vilca changa about 20 minutes ago..and I went a bit crazy!

Stong visuals kicked in with that tv fuzz look that you spoke of balaganist..along with morphing colours and things growing..brathing..

Then the strong euphoria..I couldnt help from laughing and I starting giggling like crazy anf doing summersalts on the floor and rolling around laughing..I evendid a teadybear headstand!..I was having so much fun! ..like little kid!

Laughing so hard I had tears in my eyes..like I do on mushrooms..

Usually I am more calm when I smoke bufo but this time I just sort of went wacko with some cool visuals..everything is real smooth and sort of watery..the caapi makes it soooo nice..I had some cocoa as well right before and some mate about an hour ago...

I feel perfect This stuff shot right through me and made me feel like I had died and gone to disneyland!

I feel soooo damn happy right now..I cant even begin to explain it..all I can think of is how cool and hilarious everything is..like medicine for the soul..got me in touch with my inner child or something..god I hope this is repeatable! It's like cosmic wonder

69ron..does your swim experience any tolerancy to bufotenine when combined with maoi's?..or negative effects from repeated daily use? I have been smoking bufo 4-5 times a week for the last month or so...and my last 3 trips have been with caapi extract..

I have yet to experience any tolerancy..but I think I remember you mentioning a while back that after 3 days in a row with bufo that the negative vasoconstriction builds up?? I havent experienced any lingering negative effects..other than a slight headache on days I took it without caapi when I was overly tired..and coffee always cleared it up..

how did you put together your vilca changa?

how did you make the bufo changa just ISO extract onto caapi?