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Just wondering if anyone has had a go at using bufotenine salt instead of DMT salt with a RIMA such as Caapi for an Ayahuasca style trip?
any reports?
I haven't found any from a quick look.
does it work?
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oooooh you'd be ever so sick  Try drinking a caapi tea then take some bufotenine sublingually or some other non oral route and that should be a pretty darn nice experience.
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I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours. Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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69ron wrote:I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.
Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca. so it could be good for those into the 'la purga' aspect of aya then  you reckon standard anti-emetics would work just as well?
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69ron wrote:I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.
Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca. Because the active bufo base converts to HCL in the stomach, which is responsible for the toxic effect, right?
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these reasons are why I haven;t tried the alcohol-vilca drink either..me and alcohol are not friends even by a long shot..so I doubt it would go over well..probabily just make the bufo even more nauseating. Long live the unwoke.
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rawmo wrote:69ron wrote:I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.
Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca. so it could be good for those into the 'la purga' aspect of aya then you reckon standard anti-emetics would work just as well? Yes, but probably not as well as Datura stramonium does. Also, most anti-emetics negatively effect psychedelics, making the trip weaker, while Datura stramonium makes the trip a little stronger. Datura stramonium seeds contain mostly hyoscyamine. Hyoscyamine blocks the nausea caused by most psychedelics and also potentiates the effects of psychedelics even at the very low Datura stramonium doses mentioned above. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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Touche Guevara wrote:69ron wrote:I call it barfohuasca. It's great if you want to vomit your guts out over and over and over for many hours.
Maybe if 3-5 Datura stramonium seeds were added the nausea could be controlled. SWIM never tried that though. It works to control the nausea of pure bufotenine orally, so it might work for barfohuasca. Because the active bufo base converts to HCL in the stomach, which is responsible for the toxic effect, right? Probably. If you take freebase bufotenine sublingually, it doesn’t cause nausea unless you swallow it afterwards. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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