Something both miraculous and terrible happened a few nights ago. On friday, I ingested 17 HBWR with 2 grams syrian rue seeds. I had a wonderful trip, except for the occasional purge. In the middle of the trip, I drank a tea with 2g of chaliponga, and felt a little different, not really sure if the dmt worked or not I was already hallucinating fairly good.(anything over 6 seeds is a strong trip of LSA for me.)

After 30 or 40 minuets after chaliponga, the trip begun to change. I was thrown into almost the future. I saw myself in a hospital bed. I was bleeding for help, but instead of a doctor, I was looking at myself. I tried to reach my future self, but no matter what I tried, I had no success. I heard the doctors saying, "He is infected with H1N1, and he will die soon" My spirit self, broke down. I couldnt except dying. Sure, my life isnt so great, but I was just starting to find my role. Suddenly I get extremly nausus and purge. For a moment I was back in a twisted reality, lying in my own vomit. I got up, but then I started hallucinating again. I went through a wormwhole of sorts, full of vivid colors and patterns. It was the tunnel of my life, apparently and contained pathways to all my memories, past, present, and future.


I finally come to a funeral, and realize it is my own. At this point I break down again, not knowing how to feel or how to act, almost in denial. It ended with me excepting my trip. I am still afraid of death, but now I excepted it.

Once Again, I awoke, and the effects begun to wayne off, and within a few hours I was baseline, yet still disturbed.


What Im getting to, is that where I live, The swine flu is going around. Several people in my classes have it..... And now I HAVE GOTTEN SICK!!!

Im not sure if it is swine flu, but my dad, a doctor, says that it is likely to be swine flu.

Has anyone else had visions while on dmt or another hallucinogen, that have later come true?

I have smoked cannabis all day to try to calm my nerves, but to no avail.

I have a feeling of impending doom.

If It is indeed swine flu, and it gets serious, I want to go out with a bang.

I will spend my last moments of my life, sitting on the green hills behind my house, smoking 5-meo-dmt and n,nDMT. I have never tried it, and if I am going to die, this way I will have no regrets, other then I wish my true self had awakened earlier.

Hoping I will see you tomorrow,
maxzar100

P.S. thankyou for all of your help up till now

Dont worry man vision of ones own death are part of using psychedelics if one persists you will experience this sooner or later you think you may be dieing or even the very common experience of "well Ive done it now I really am dead this time". There things are not for everyone. Read some of the heavy reports on Erowid aplenty impending doom and death trips. Lots or wonderful life changing trip as well.

I have talked to people who dont understand why people use psychedelics they all say the same thing about the death aspect " well what the point how can that be beneficial or inspiring?" I have given up trying to explain it to them.

The HBWR can drain one pretty well I think you will be fine. Give yourself a day to return to normal and maybe get a flu shot.

PEACE
MV

"P.S. thankyou for all of your help up till now" That was pretty amusing....as well

Personally I dont believe in the swine flu hype..I think it's propeganda more people die from the seasonal flu than swine flu..get lots of rest and take omega fatty acids apparently they halp fight off the flu..

I had a very bad flu a while ago as well I kept thinking swine flu..I puked at least 15 times in one night it was horrible I kept puking and drinking water and puking, and when I was done I puked some more ..flushed out my entire system..my brother and his gf were sick for days and tried to fight the puking and ate all sorts of shit..I was fine the next day..purged thiose bastards right out of me..ate loads of vitamine the next day to replace everything I purged.

My stomache muscles hurt alot for a few days but I was ok..

Hope you are alright! You have my prayers!

I keep telling my self that if I do ever get diagnosed with swine flu I will either eat mescaline cactus or drink a nice big aya brew and fix that problem..dunno if I could keep em down but it would be of some help I think.

thanks everyone.

"Has anyone else had visions while on dmt or another hallucinogen, that have later come true?"
yes and they do not always come true.. some times they are allegories... some times literal.
either way the future is not a fixed thing but dynamic in nature... the only constant is change...
ultimately whether you die or not.. the aim as i have experienced it is to cultivate wisdom and compassion... if this experience cutivates iether in you we are all blessed by your insights... if that is indeed what you are attempting to cultivate with this medicine...

17 HBWR seeds?! plus rue?! jeeesus thats a lot

SWIM took 7-8 some years ago and already had quite some troubles, 17 seems way exagerated, even more with rue on top ... how comes, you are used to taking HBWR all the time, or?

in any case, yeah, visions of death are quite normal, and one can use it as an experience for inner growth.. Dont worry

all the best

Sounds like an awesome trip!

Just focus on letting go of the fear you've got.

Well, I bought some 100 hbwr from shamans garden, and I got hooked. It is one of my favorite drugs for meditating, as I often get floating sensations, one time I literally floated around my room, I have done lsa maybe about 12 or 13 times by itself in good doses, but I have also done it 3 or 4 times using on 3 to 5 seeds. This is still enjoyable, except for the stomach cramps, so now, If i feel like LSA, I like to go all the way or none at all. There is usually a period of like an hour during the come up when I am just like "Dammit, why did I do this again.." haha but then it is quite an enjoyable and spiritual experience, the nausea is easily controlled using datura or some cannabis. BUT BEWARE This is a tip for everyone, for me the datura LENGTHENS the experience, sometimes by 10 hours!!! I do not think the visions of death were caused by the HBWR, usually I do not get thrown into such different dimensions with the HBWR, The most visuals I have ever gotten on it are just things dissapearing and re-appearing. For example, my room dissapeared, and only my clock was with me, in a void of darkness, and the stars on my ceiling often enlarge and shrink, and sometimes during the peak, the stars often detach from the ceiling and float around my room, sometimes its seems like they are spinning twords me. LSA is more of a drug I like to use when I am contemplating something, then if I am trying to hallucinate strongly.

Also, I have tried LSH twice, once was a failure, but the second time, a success. It was weird, but I even liked it more then acid. I got much more visuals on LSH then on acid. On LSH, the visuals came in waves, and I would feel very euphoric and see lots of colors. By the way, I added Datura to the LSH, in order to weaken the vasculour constriction.

Also, for me, HBWR builds tolerance very fast, but I can still feel small doses, just not as well as I used to.

yes that is a very high dose with the rue AND chaliponga! I like LSH but not the negative body effects I felt from high dose morning glories..only had like 3 or 4 HBWR though so maybe they are differnt?

Some of the negtatives may have been 5meo in chaliponga

Thats a high dose of chaliponga? oh shit I thought that was a small dose. Fractal, in your expiereince, If I was trying to make a chaliponga tea, with a little bit of some kind of maoi, that would not be very strong, just something to feel euphoric and get mild visuals, like something I can take in the morning before work and classes.

What would be the best way to make this? I currently have about 20g of chaliponga, and maybe 1 or 2 grams IF THAT of rue. I also have a few ounces of passionflower leaf, some damiana, and some valerian root. Oh, also, 3 different kinds of pedicularis and some Yerba mate leaves

Swine Flu is bullshit.

I had it, it's no big deal.

Yeah I have stopped sketching out, besides even if it was its not like I could do much.

No I meant that was a high dose of HBWR..2 grams of chaliponga sounds fine..stong stuff at 1% can be powerful at 2 grams though with MAOI's..20mg of a DMT/5meo mix in 2 grams at 1%..5meo is active at a few mg..plus there is maoi's in the chali as well..

2 grams of rue should be fine..even 1 gram could work. I would watch out with chaliponga though..that 5meo can really creep up and kick your ass when not expecting it..at lower doses it is nice..higher doses and it throws you into strange loops and ego death..not always fun.

If you wokr with rue alot, it's best to salt out the alkaloids and then add then the the brew..but with small ammounts that is pointless..you can use the straight rue, but some toxins are eliminated when you salt out the harmalas, makes it less body heavy and a bit clearer I guess..I dont drink with rue at all..only caapi. I like to smoke my rue crystals though.

Sooo, I was sitting at home, pretty sick, and said, what the hell, lets spice.

at 10am today, I mixed 4 tablespoons cocoa, 1/4 ounce yerba mate, an ounce of passionflower, 3 grams of blue lotus, and 1.7g of chaliponga given as a gift from FV. After 30 min, started to get a nice buzz, and had some energy, 10 minuets later, started to get fairly nauseous. Smoked a minuscule amount of cannabis. (times are tough, ok) After that, I felt a little better and took a shower. In the shower, colors were very bright, the walls seemed to be moving slowly. Saw some grid like patterns, and had one closed eye visual, I saw an...eye? maybe third eye or something? Butt then again I had a low fever so I could have just been trippin out on that. Felt very nice and euphoric for about 2 hours. I felt much better, and almost forgot I was sick; the trip ended a few minuets later, and I felt just as bad as before. For a while though, it stopped my fever.

All in all, not bad I guess, I feel like I wanted it to be more potent though. Perhaps If I had used caapi or rue? I used a lot of passionflower but it still probably did not contain enough maoi alkaloids.

I prepared this drink by boiling water in a sauce pot, then throwing in all of the materials, and bringing it down to a simmer for 30 minuets. Then I strained the water out, left a murky brown liquid. After that, I simmered the water down, and drank. Quite foul taste, I managed not to gag, until I coincidently tried to drink all of the sediment at the bottom of the cup. It got stuck, and I nearly threw up. THAT would have been a huge waste ;(

Happy to see you alive and well today still posting................

thanks mv, it is thanks to the spice.... (maybe)

Consider urself lucky. H1N1 is less severe clinically than the seasonal flu. The fact that you had a hallucination about is more likely because of the all the media exposure and talking about it to kids in class. The fact that you got it is no more proof of future insight than me dreaming about ice-cream tonight and then buying some tomorrow.
You were likely to get the flu anyway. The reason your dad told you it is likely swine flu is because thats the assumption all doctors are making now,because its too expensive to get a PCR test done on everyone who comes in with the sniffles. (i'd say it was more likely the seasonal flu, but it doesn't really matter anyway)
Treatment: Rest + plenty of water.

Good luck on the recovery.

I was very worried about Swine Flu until I actually got it.... then I found out it's just like the regular flu basically (maybe not even as bad?)... unless your an infant, over 70 or you have HIV or AIDs you don't need to spend more than 5 seconds thinking about this horseshit, fear-mongering Swine "sickness".

Yeah I think I worried about it for nothing. Besides I am vaccinated now anyways.

The vaccine is WAAAAY worse than the swine flu itself, please DO NOT get the vaccine!

It's EVILLLL, puuuure EVIL!!!!