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Alux11.11.43
#1 Posted : 12/4/2017 3:54:45 PM

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Hello fellow peoples! Smile

Adjusting to this hyperspace! Joining the nexus here feels overwhelming just like the first time sitting with the master crystals! Such a humongous vast vault of knowledge. I'll just take a breath and get used to navigating my way through. That always seemed to work!

The nexus is a type of digital blessing for us all. A space that we can learn explore share and open up and mostly be understood. It can be a walk of solitude sometimes once you open yourself up to this work. But that's not such a bad thing at all.

I have a question, something I have Been stuck on for almost 2 years now.

I have learned from and listened to the communication that comes from sitting with plants and fungi, I would go as far to say that without a doubt they have all helped shape the human alien I have become. I trusted/trust their guidance and have benifited deeply from their teachings.I will also add that I have had the best learning experiences when journeying alone solo, but also enjoy the group setting or with one or two friends. Though in a full traditional ceremonial experience I like being part of the group to help raise the vibrational energy and complete the ceremonial mission.

Along my way I have been distracted by the chemical teachers that do not communicate in a helpful way. Almost like loosing my way from the medicine path. I have since regained my feet back on the medicine path yet I rarely injest any Etheogens and especially none of the other nasty stuff I dabbled in. I'm proud of myself for reconnecting to listening to the teachings without having to sit with a plant spirit and just be able too see it and feel it through being alive.

This leads me to my question. I now have a type of anxiety around deciding to sit with or injest an entheogen. Maybe it's just the nerves involved before taking the journey. Another reason I can think of is that some human aliens that were very close to my heart that have since departed from my life communicated to me that I was using entheogen in the wrong way. But in my heart brain I questioned how this could be as my relationship with spores and plants always helped me and I'm incredibly sure of that fact.

So the main question I need to put out there is who does one ask for permission to use entheogens/plant teachers/sporehelpers/animalhelpers?

It seems to me that asking the plant spirit directly in its natural growing form when you are face to face with it with and respect in your heart for that natural earth element compound is the only thing in this world that can tell you if you have permission to sit with it and use it/work with it. It will say either Yes you can sit with me, injest me and embody me, or no you can't sit with me today sir.

As long as one listens to the true communication from the entheogen and not misinterpret their own thought or inner voice or motive then I believe that is were permission will be granted to keep a friendship going with the plants and spores.

Has anyone else here had a similar experience? Like having a long break from entheogens but then struggling to find your feet in it all again?

I also realize that some people don't even think about asking for permission they just go ahead but it feels like it's something pretty important to be able to move forward with the plants.

Thanks nexusforum for providing a place to ask these questions and thanks to any other human alien that reads. Any feedback is good feedback.
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dreamer042
#2 Posted : 12/4/2017 9:06:22 PM

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Alux11.11.43 wrote:
So the main question I need to put out there is who does one ask for permission to use entheogens/plant teachers/sporehelpers/animalhelpers?

It seems to me that asking the plant spirit directly in its natural growing form when you are face to face with it with and respect in your heart for that natural earth element compound is the only thing in this world that can tell you if you have permission to sit with it and use it/work with it. It will say either Yes you can sit with me, injest me and embody me, or no you can't sit with me today sir.

I tend to agree. I'd say ultimately you give yourself permission to decide what kind of relationship you develop with these substances. Intention is everything, and I'm certainly convinced that taking time to develop a personal relationship by raising and caring for a plant or fungi is always going to give more beneficial results than ingesting some random product of unknown origin with unclear intention.

Don't underestimate the synthetics though, they can be quite powerful teachers in their own right if utilized respectfully and with clarity of purpose.
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Loveall
#3 Posted : 12/4/2017 11:10:22 PM

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I thank the plants and mushrooms for their gifts. Asking them for permission makes sense because metabolosis is the ultimate intimate experience. You become part of each other. It is more intimate than sex in my oppinion (with permission from the anglerfish).
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Intezam
#4 Posted : 12/5/2017 6:43:05 PM

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We'd say: Bismi Illahi ar Rahman i ar Raheem* and that would be the most noble path of taking ijaazah (permission) for we. Anyway, that's just our sannnnnnnd ways.....


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