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A Few Questions About My First Extraction Options
 
SUBZERO
#1 Posted : 11/21/2017 11:49:15 PM

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Hey guys Smile

Last night I finished up my first extraction and I must say the result was incredible. 50 grams of acacia confusa was used for cyb's tek, yielding fine, white crystalline powder, along with a bit of yellow goop. Bioassay revealed it to be very (very) potent. Love I had an earth shattering breakthrough, which was so powerful that I'm thinking of writing up a report.

So, while I'm quite satisfied with the quality of my spice, one thing still vexes me: the QUANTITY of it. .3 grams was yielded in total, yellow goop and all.
This is low, right? .6%? I was under the impression that cyb's tek could yield up to 2%.
I understand that many factors can influence the yield, including the quality of the bark. This is a bit troubling to me, as I still have almost a kilo.
Basically I'm trying to figure out if my bark is weaksauce or if I just need to get better at extracting.

I'm wondering, should I repeat the same process and see if more is to be gained? Or try my hand at another tek? Ideally a new tek would use shredded bark instead of powdered, as grinding it proved to be quite a pain in the ass.

Thanks in advance
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antares
#2 Posted : 11/22/2017 9:50:16 PM

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why don't you invest in a soxhlet kit off ebay or aliexpress? They are very reasonably priced and they can complement a wide variety of established teks and help you wring out every last bit of extractable goodness from your raw material.
 
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#3 Posted : 11/23/2017 1:01:02 AM

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Thanks man. Those things look pretty advanced! Sadly I can't afford right now Sad
Is there any easy way to powder some acrb? I used a food processor last time but I had to add water and It still came out all chunky.
 
#4 Posted : 11/23/2017 1:06:07 AM
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I've never done Cybs tek, although it's definitely a proven tek in terms of it yielding great.

The only thing I could think of is if the total volume of all your pulls weren't evaporated down sufficiently enough before sticking them in the freezer then I could see that being a potential issue. Just speaking in general here, but if your total combined pulls in the collection dish aren't 'milky' or very 'opaque' - then that's a good indicator that the total volume needs evaporated down more before sticking the dish in the freezer.

The total volume of pulls needs to be saturated [milky] before sticking in the freezer ime, otherwise the likelyhood of all the freebase dmt to crash out is on the lower end, and everything that's in there will not crash out.

I usually evaporate the total volume of all my pulls - down to a 1/3 of the total volume or so, otherwise the xtal formation in the freezer has the potential of being much lower ime. Think of it as - you keep evaporating the total volume down - you're in a sense continually 'backing the dmt xtals into a corner' so to speak, giving them less space/volume to be dissolute, then given with the really cold temps - this combination causes them to crash out. On the flip side if you don't evaporate the total volume down ..then they have more space to 'hide out' insolution. Razz



Also, another important thing is to make sure the non polar solvent is mixed thoroughly throughout the base mix, otherwise the potential for it to pick up near-all of the dmt freebase is lessened ime. I usually mix thoroughly, let it separate, then repeat this process a few more times just to be sure I picked everything up; then I pull it off after its fully settled.

** also, ime it's important to have some sort of airtight top/lid/covering on the dish, in order to not allow any water/or anything from the freezer to seep into the dish.

***Also I noticed you used acrb, and that in itself can have variability in alk levels ime, relative to what's extracted from mhrb.
 
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#5 Posted : 11/23/2017 11:12:04 AM

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SUBZERO wrote:
I was under the impression that cyb's tek could yield up to 2%.

2%+ is in regards to high quality Brazilian MHRB. (Read Here )
Acacia is typically 1% or lower (especially these days)

Since the rise of extractions over the years...quality of bark seems to be on the decline...

If you follow all the steps of the tek to the letter...the only variable is the bark (probably weak)

You have more than enough to last you a lifetime.

Please do not PM tek related questions
Reserve the right to change your mind at any given moment.
 
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#6 Posted : 11/24/2017 9:52:40 AM

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Yours yield of 1.1% which seems pretty good for ACRB.

I am getting 0.9-1.5% from MHRB with Cyb's Tek.

Exhausting the plant material more by cookings, pressure cooking, more freeze-thawing cycles, adding more base for more breakdown - all these methods doe not seem to provide more yield so I am a bit skeptical about the Soxhlet.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/24/2017 1:42:20 PM
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antares, can you elaborate on this soxhlet kit? Im a bit of a tool/apparatus geek and would love to know more about these so I can justify buying one.
 
 
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