So whats the deal here?

After reading a few reports here of use of spagyric, Id like to find more out about them. I see there are a load of different ones, but im most interested in the salvia and caapi ones.

What are the effects? How much must be taken? A drop, or 5?

Anyone with any experience with this please post here.

Edit, oh ya, Mods, please move this to a more appropriate sub-forum if needed.

Love me my caapi sapgyric.
powerful metaprogramming ally.
a few drops is all ya need.

^so you get effects from it? is it like drinking caapi? this is all so strange and interesting!

yes, yes ;]

i just took some red caapi spagyric and it most certainly has effects

On its own Jorkest?

What about vaping? Would it extend the experinece?

synergy, gamma

it's where it's @

Could you post a recipe for a caapi spagyric? I am trying to find recipes online and can't really find anything solid..they talk about fermenting and then using ashes and whatnot but nothing i can actaully piece together.

http://www.al-qemi.com/

Swim is very impressed...
subjective experiences with the products any one?

I'd never buy from a site that calls homeopathy a useful healing tool.

Suit yourself. I know they have a lot of silly marketing aspects, but they make a damn good caapi spagyric and there's nothing else like it that I know of.

For a while I was drinking a few drops a day every other day and it helped me kick a lot of old habits.
Shed some skin.

They taste incredible... I'm grateful, and surprised at how long it's lasted, as I am not called to work with it often.

That company sells DMT extract... that is illegal and a very bad idea!

wow....i actually feel a little weird doing this because i am one of the crunchiest hippies you'll come across...but as a fellow consumer i have no choice but to chime in here.

i personally had a horrible experience with al-qemi and the whole spagyric dynamic. to be succinct, i ordered about 4 or 5 different spagyrics from al-qemi....all of which had extremely misleading descriptions of "cosmic, ethereal transportation" and "deep meditative astral projecting"....total b.s. for me, they did nothing more than burn the hell out of the soft tissue under my tongue and have absolutely no palpable effect other than feeling a tiny bit buzzed once when, in desperation, i took about 10 times the recommended dosage of one of their super-potent gems called "sexahuasca". the grain alcohol they use is pretty potent, but i'd have preferred a couple of nice, cold hard-ciders...

anywho-after giving a few of these babies an honest test-ride, i contacted al-qemi to see if there was something i was doing wrong. mind you, i did NOT ask for a refund or anything....simply stated i had no effects and could i do something to fix that.

what i received was so beyond anything i've had to deal with.....if you do some digging, i'm sure you'll find the thread that ultimately had to be shut down by Traveler. the owner of that company was the embodiment of rude, belittling, arrogant and just plain mean. she ultimately did refund my money, but not before insulting me and everyone here at the nexus with names like "thick skulls" or "hard headed, insensitive druggies".....

i ain't down with that. i am all about the love and i approached that entire experience with a big bucket of it in hand. to go through what i did....well....let's just say i feel it my duty to share that with you. sounds like everyone on this thread has had good luck with their spagyrics and for that i am truly happy....and a bit envious really.... but it is always good to get a balanced perspective on a subject i always say.

...so here's your CON to go with all your PROS. best of luck with whatever comes of your explorations! and please, write about your experience if you DO feel something!!

LOVE AND GRATITUDE!!

I remember all that.
I think they were just worried about their site blowin' up, which I can understand, as it's their business + livelyhood.

Despite all of that, I was curious, and bought a black caapi spagyric.
I don't like applying it sublingually, as yes, it kind of burns,
I just drink it in a shot with some water
and it's very effective.
Quite a powerful medicine....
while working with it, I was unconsciously persuaded to do all of these things to better my life.
And I am amazed at the change I have conducted these past few months.

I just can't drink ayahuasca all the time.
Whenever I need what feels like "DNA Recalibration" I swallow a few drops (yum) and ponder the possibilities...

Great launchpad for the spice...

Fascinating, when I made my last Aya brew I was guided to reduce some of the extracted plant material to ash and add it back into the brew.
And what a brew it was

i too have had wonderful effects from their spagyrics..



and i have used homeopathic remedies for my whole life...they do work...ive healed sprained ankles..pink eye...croup and many other ailments with homeopathics...i havent been to a doctor in over a decade...

there is some merit to them...and these spagyrics are no different...they are some of the CLEANEST medicines i have ever used..and im going to be signing up for their alchemy school in january when they start that...i feel the most amazing rush of energy everytime i use their spagyrics...

and perhaps they just dont work with everyone...but they work for me and the people i have given them too..so ill be going back many many times...well...until i start making my own

very nice!!

....and the idea of "DNA recalibration" put a giant smile on my face

you know, the funniest thing for me is the fact that i, too, am ABSOLUTELY effected by homeopathy!! i've been working with a homeopath for almost 20 years and have, as jorkest pointed out, healed all kinds of ailments both physical, spiritual and emotional. not sure what was up with my spagyric exploration...just a different frequency that i don't resonate at i suppose.....

J- i can't wait to hear about your adventures at alchemy school!! lemme know when you have successfully produced your first batch! .....what do you suppose you'll try to make first?

I wish there was more stuff on spagyrics in my courses..I am studying herbalism trying to get my degree as a master herbalsit but there is only a tiny bit ofstuff on spagyrics, a bit more on homeopathy..but it's real interesting..alchemy has this allure to it..guess I will have to do lots of solo research..always fun

well i was thinking....i love extracting things..i really do..its a passion...and i thought...how sweet it would be to do it for a living...

and then another cool idea popped into my head....how awesome would it be to have somebody come up to you and be like...."so what do you do for a living" and i would be like 'im an alchemist' and they will be like....' whoooa whats taht about?"

and then i get to tell them