Quick Question just got my hands on some 5-MeO, is it worth me getting some proper scales for this or am i wasting £20 on just to weigh up one thing one time? i got some 0.01 scales already but i know its alot more potent

20 is not nearly enough to trust a scale. Those "miligram scales" are not accurate at all.
Even jewelry scales are somewhat innacurate for the more powerfull drugs.
You want a scale from a reputable brand at a high price if you want a scale to trust.
Volumetric dosing is what you want.
Look at the guide for weighing tips.

Check out this thread by Bancopuma on using measuring scoops for 5meo > https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=75488

Volumetric dosing and a good scale are your best friends. Just make sure to scale up the material so that you err on the side of caution. I'd rather take a few shots of liquid than wonder if I'm going to die from that drop.
Safe travels.

Yeah this is what i was thinking i dont want to over do it xD i know DMT is relatively safe but 5-MeO is alot more potent xD can 5-MeO be fatal if you over do it?

Them scoops look perfect little 3mm scoop ideal, 2 scoops is a decent hit then?

I dont think fatal in a body sense.
More like extremly mind shattering

Please adjust before to your own material. There can be quite a difference in fluffiness which can result in quite different weights per spoon.
Best is to just put like 10 or 20 or whatever (depending on the scale you have) spoons on the scale and then divide by amount of spoons, to have the "per spoon" value for your material.

Also the material should be even in granularity for this to work properly. E.g. not fine dust and some bigger crystals in between...

So Chop it up, gauge what a scoop is of my material by weighing a few scoops, start of small, BLAST OFF..?

Get a Gemini 20. After that you can dial in the weight for your specific material measuring a larger amount, say 30 scoops - divide total weight for said 30 scoops by 30 and you will get a pretty accurate measure for that scoop. Good travels with 5meo - it's a f*cking wild and beautiful beast.

just been paid so im going to order one just want to double check this is the Gemini 20?
https://www.amazon.co.uk...-Stainless/dp/B0012TDNAM

Thanks for the advice you beautiful people , ill let you know how my first experience goes with this beautiful beast

That seems to be questionable. It is hard to find a reliable answer and I'm not sure if an LD50 has been established, but I'm pretty sure it exists and is not hard to achieve.

Even though I was extremely high, in not sure how I could perceive my heart stopping and then exhaling without a return breath prior to my pseudo-nde unless it did indeed happen.

I'll never know, but it concerns me enough that I've been holding onto a couple precious doses for a couple months now waiting for a reliable sitter, which is something I never do.

No matter what, I it is powerful, and beautiful, transformative. And very dangerous. Please prepare yourself and be ready (and sure you want) for your world to no longer exist for you in the same way.

As for weighing, what is your ROA? It seems that using scoops is effective, but as per Banco's thread, it may be more economically feasible for you, but it is the route I took to weigh this HcL and I'm confident.

Again, I just want a responsible, reliable sitter with CPR training, who knows how to hold space without interfering and who can tell the difference between real physical distress requiring a call or a heavy psychic purge.

If this is your first go with it, regardless of your prior psychedelic experience take precaution and do not be alone.

Im the same as you mate, never bother with a sitter when im on my own but with this one i am going to wait until im with my mate

I blast NN all the time on my own but while im new to this will most defiantly have a sitter!

Ordered a Scoop and some Wales Fuck it...Roll on Saturday time to get Multi Dimensional

Please read read this => https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/d...aspx?g=posts&t=13240 thread carefully.

Excellent reading about some real risks involved with 5-meo-dmt. Also be very cautious about combining it with maoi's and rima's.

Reading that puts me off slightly, but then again i can see most of the trip reports where they have had problems has been due to because there banging like 20mgs when 10mg is considered strong...do you breakthrough on this stuff, ive heard one guy say its like acid and NN is like shrooms