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wjbram
#1 Posted : 10/14/2017 6:43:39 PM
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A brief history of my entheogenic journey:

From the age of 14 to 23 I began to drink alcohol, this turned into amphetamine abuse from 24 to 26. At the age of 26 I drank Ayahuasca, everything changed. I drank Ayahuasca monthly in a ceremonial context for the next 3 years. At 29 I decided to drop everything. Almost two years on, I feel deeply called to Ibogaine. Ayahuasca would take me in her arms, cradle me and say everything will be ok, in the proceeding months I became a symbol of light and bubbles, everything was and was going to be ok. At this point, it feels everything has caught up again. Does a human being sit with the discomfort of being or do something to make it more bearable for the foreseeable future?

I have just booked a ticket to Gabon for two weeks. I don't know where I'm going to stay, or where to even drink Iboga but the ticket has been bought. Any advice going forward would be greatly appreciated.
 

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#2 Posted : 10/14/2017 8:41:12 PM

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Ayahuasca would take me in her arms, cradle me and say everything will be ok, in the proceeding months I became a symbol of light and bubbles, everything was and was going to be ok. At this point, it feels everything has caught up again. Does a human being sit with the discomfort of being or do something to make it more bearable for the foreseeable future?

Light and bubbles, love it, listening to Klindi Li perhaps? Big grin

Anyway, yes this is a great post, and is the subject of an essay I'm in the process of writing over on my practical tripper blog. Here's a ton of words that may or may not be of use to you that I edited out of it...

Practical Tripper: Moving into the Future wrote:
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“While most users will emphatically state that their lives are better for using them, when they are asked exactly how that is so, far less of them can actually say. People travel all the way to the jungle to take ayahuasca and then complain that the peace that they feel there disappears shortly after returning home. Surely the idea of using these things is not to have to return over and over to them out of necessity but to incorporate the insights gained into an improved lifestyle…

… Enduring suffering- learning and growing through it, using life's hardships as opportunities for growth through understanding is integral to the path. And there will be suffering. While it is a guarantee that life will bring turmoil, it is not a given that one must be in misery. The spiritual foundation that can be established through having personal experiential encounters within one's own 'divine space' with something far greater than themselves is an especially useful foil to the darkness of misery. Whether or not one considers themselves theists or not, 'spirituality' - that is, an inner connection with the mysteries of the material universe, is part of the human makeup, and satisfying a desire to understand the role of consciousness within it is the human condition. A powerful psychedelic experience of the kind talked about here can go a long way toward solving one’s personal questions about the Great Mystery, although as previously stated that in and of itself opens a whole new set of problems and is not the be all and end all of the path…

… The fact is, is that within western culture there is very little that one can attach a psychedelic world view to creates difficulties. There are really no places to turn to seek advice and as a result one can feel isolated with their new found understanding. Without joining a religion, there is not much framework available to attach the esoteric thoughts derived in psychedelic space. Suddenly getting the great punchline to the great cosmic joke, but with nobody to tell it to is a lonely room!

It breaks my heart though when I hear people complain about losing the vision and state that they don’t know what their work has done for them, even though they will use terms like shamanic and healing to describe it. For some, posturing and self-proclaimed enlightenment may be part of a game they are playing, and for others repeat trips may also be desirable but for any, and especially those whose goal is getting as much out of it as possible, faltering is entirely understandable and is due more to a lack of resources and language than any lack of veracity or conviction…

… Whether one engages in an ayahuasca ceremony in the jungle or has a deep mushroom trip in their backyard, coming ‘back to earth’ and to their normal routine can quickly erase the psychic, emotional or spiritual gains. Many people counter this by doing continual booster doses, but it seems to be not much better than the western medicine adherents claim superiority over if that is the case. For many who have utilized micro dosing, they have found it to be a very effective way to reap beneficial properties of psychedelics (the anecdotal literature and research deals mostly with psilocybin and LSD) without ingesting doses large enough to have a psychoactive effect. Users of LSD report that taking doses of between 10ug and 25ug (with a typical recreational dose hovering around 75-100ug, and effects typically felt above 50ug) in dosing regimens that can last for short periods of days to indefinite terms increases creativity and productivity, stabilizes mood, lifts depression and other potent beneficial effects without the side effects of pharmaceutical drugs….

… It is advisable not to go it alone. Unfortunately, in our culture, having expansive visions of a self, unencumbered by materialistic desire, lust and greed, moving with deliberation to be a positive force in the world is not exactly supported at large. Going through periods of depression and doubt are not a risk, but are a certainty. These can be looked at as opportunities to test the veracity of your path but most likely will be met with grief and confusion. You will be beset by challenges and doubt from without as well as within, and having the benefit of community can be a blessing if you find the right one. Retaining conviction in the veracity of one's vision is crucial to both integrating and maintaining balance, grounding and direction.

… Psychedelics can afford us the knowledge and insight of knowing oneself unfettered by illusory bonds of delusion. Freed from the binding and petty motivations of greed and lust, forging a path within a culture that reveres those things is a challenge. But it is one that must be met if you are called to it. The psychedelic experience has always been part of the human experience, until only very recently in our history when it was challenged by fearful and ignorant people with power. If you have taken part in the knowledge they offer, eaten the metaphorical red pill, what are you going to do now?”





One of the greatest challenges that anyone can face regarding anything they do is doubt. The resistance to any form of change that manifests as one’s own doubt about the endeavor can be the greatest obstacle to overcome. Sometimes, every little comment, every door that doesn’t loom large, wide and open can be perceived as a sign that we should just give up on our path. Often times, despite our internal conviction that what we are doing is right, people and things around us seem to tell us otherwise. If it is so difficult and if there is so much resistance, then why continue?

It really is much easier to acquiesce to western culture’s demands and continue spinning the wheel in your cage and relying on the knowledge that your water bottle and food tray will always be more or less full, as long as “they” continue filling them. If change means giving up that reliability, then taking action towards it will undoubtedly be difficult. The first instigator of doubt in this case then is discomfort, and leaping into the unknown is uncomfortable as hell.

So that means that if you really do want to put into action the things that you have learned in psychedelic space, that you are going to be uncomfortable. Chances are, more than just uncomfortable, there will be times of downright suffering. Conviction in your ideals will be challenged regularly both from those around you and indirectly through media, and even from within, as culturally ingrained ideas seep out into your conscious mind, reminding you that all you did was take a drug and don’t you know, drugs are bad.

Putting your ideals into action is the most useful way to integrate the ‘lessons’ of psychedelic space. This could mean pursuing the goal of a creative life being an artist, or following your heart to better yourself in order to help other people or any myriad of things that if done by all the individuals following this path would help make the world more full of positive people and things. And doing that means meeting the resistance head on, which is going to be a challenge.

So, personally, my goal is to trip as little as possible. I smoke the hell out of pot, which for me replaces several prescriptions for everything from pain to anxiety with the added benefit of really fun side effects unlike the murderous rages the anti-depressants I’ve been given.
I microdose when I can as needed, and maybe once every year or two will macro-dose on psilocybin, and trip freebase DMT.
With things like ibogaine though, yes I understand the call, I hear it as well and am making the preparations to go south. (F####ing passport office!!!)

The rest of my practice is keeping on keeping on, putting one foot in front of the other, maintaining conviction in my vision which is informing my actions with love and illuminating my thoughts with understanding, the take away from psychedelic experience IME&O.

But it is challenging my friend, hence the thousands of words I’m stringing together to help me make sense out of it and to give to others trying to do the same. Peace to you, and be good to you.
Sine experientia nihil sufficienter sciri potest -Roger Bacon
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#3 Posted : 10/15/2017 9:09:11 PM




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hello
you might want to consult "jamie" about this, he gets online regularly
he too speaks of bubbles and light ayahuasca and rhino-head iboga teachings
i wish i had better insight to offer, but he says it best Thumbs up
 
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#4 Posted : 10/15/2017 9:31:35 PM

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Nice but also intriguing where you get Iboga should be drunk ?
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
 
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