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#21 Posted : 10/11/2017 1:37:29 PM

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5-HT2a wrote:


Yep, that's spot on. Salts (such as DMT acetate, the product formed from dmt and acetic acid (vinegar)) are very polar and dissolve easily in polar solvents like water. Fats are neutral and will be pulled by a NPS at any time, regardless of if the aqueous layer is acidic or basic. So once the dmt is dissolved in an acidic solution, the fats can be removed with a NPS without removing the dmt. The aqueous solution is then reacted with a base stronger than dmt, such as sodium hydroxide. The reaction here is:

DMT acetate + sodium hydroxide -> sodium acetate + DMT

Dmt, being non-polar, falls out of solution and can be dissolved with a NPS, such as naphtha.


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#22 Posted : 10/11/2017 2:30:19 PM

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Although I know its foolish I have tried this spice a few more times and to very few ill effects. The first time I sampled this I freaked out because of the numbness/tingling/burning on the lips. I was having a low dose experience and that sensation was no bueno. Since then I have found lacing joints and blunts with it give very mild effects but super difficult to smoke because of the tase and it eventually gets to chemically to smoke well. From what i understand is that this is par for the course with this mamajama.

Today I tried the GVG and got much stronger low dose effects with virtually no strange numbing sensation just a little test blast off.Shocked still a little bit of residue but not as much.

I'm definitely going to get some MHRB and do my own extraction but until then... I have been awaiting an encounter this molecule for 13 years, I'm going to tread lightly with as many harm reduction practices I can muster and continue my travels until i can produce my own.

Side question will any napatha/bestine brand work for a re-x or do some napatha brands have additives?

BESTINE
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SpicyCraik17
#23 Posted : 10/11/2017 6:15:58 PM

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Bestine is on the way and I am going to undertake that clean up suggested with half of it as well.

A lot to sort out but
We will rebuild it.Thumbs up

Thank you for having that discussion on reactions BTW I learn well through that model and I appreciate the spoonfed info too.
 
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#24 Posted : 10/12/2017 5:02:25 PM

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No problem guys, I know how confusing things can be at first glance and it makes a huge difference to actually understands what's going on. That way when you mess up or something doesn't come out the way you were expecting you can figure out why and how to fix it, rather than just calling it a failure and throwing away the goods.
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#25 Posted : 10/14/2017 10:07:17 PM

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Cool bestine only round 1
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5-HT2a
#26 Posted : 10/15/2017 9:16:41 AM

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I'm so happy you actually followed through and purified it. For me, working with (and understanding the science behind) dmt creates such a more personal experience. That stuff looks amazing compared to what it started out as. What was your % yield? I just recently performed only my second re-x and it went from light yellow powder to pure white crystals, but I lost 40%. I certainly need more practice. I think I can still recover another 20% though. Regardless, extracting/purifying dmt is becoming much more appealing to me than even smoking it, and I love seeing the self-improvement as I continue to work with this sacred molecule.
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#27 Posted : 10/17/2017 7:29:45 PM

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I dont think I'll really know what my yeild is seeing as how this was a tainted batch. I'm also still re-x-ing some and foolishly tried to speed evap some on a crockpot on high and bye bye Dimitri. But over all out of what was 4g Im counting about 2.5 that I have salvaged, an un weighed amount of whatever was added to the original batch, and some given to the gods for a learning sacrifice.Rolling eyes
So I dont think I can do more than guess at total count of what was lost, salvaged, or gained.
I did learn though and thats what counts GI Joe!
I'll be back with a much more controlled, concise extraction that I will bless and undertake on my own. Then I will have good numbers and yeilds to offer up. 5ht2a I feel the calling to release this molecule as well. Its strange how much it has consumed my thoughts now.
Thanks for the replies everyone and thanks for the support nexus.
Edit for picture explanation
So the top is the second pull and combined leftover from the circle pan first pull.
The scrape in a pile is from the second pull rectangle pan. The scrape in a cresent is the first white pull in the circle pan.
The large jar is a third pull of the "slag" contamination material that was left on the crock a bit to really heat and get whats left. At this point the slag started turning less and less yellow. The small jar started out as whatever pour off came from the large pans and combinations and ended up as the final pan rinse receptacle also. Last pic is the "slag" looks whitish with a crystalline sheen.
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