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#6dream
#1 Posted : 10/7/2017 10:25:06 PM
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Which won't mean anything... unless you read this post and follow the link:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=77070

I am the author of the book referred to, (The Honest Drug Book), and the nom de plume is obviously not an accident. It isn't particularly clever or funny either, but I tried.

I have been a member here since June 2015, and lurked long before that. It's an awesome community, and I learned much here (and still do). I hope to finally post, now that it is finally published.

In there I have covered three presentations of DMT: stand alone, via changa and via ayuhuasca. You will appreciate these were not the easiest experiences to document, but hopefully I did them some sort of justice. I actually found ayahuasca to be the easiest to write up, because it was more navigable, followed by changa. My raw DMT experiences have been something of a struggle: I have much to learn.

Later on I also sampled 4-ACO-DMT, but only at a low dose.

I feel that my DMT journey has a long way to run. Whilst it is unfolding I'll try to lurk less and post more. :-)



 

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Chan
#2 Posted : 10/8/2017 3:34:32 AM

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Welcome, and kudos for the excellent work, Dominic!

My copy arrived today, and so far, extremely impressed by your lucid and nicely understated way of writing. It makes a refreshing change from some of the more hyperbolic stuff out there. Would've liked to have left a 5 star review on Amzn, but [insert something about GCHQ here]...

The introductory and closing sections were especially good: sane, sensible, cogent; I really hope the book gets some traction in the wider press, it deserves to!

You missed a trick tho, only going oral ROA with MXE. 1-2cm higher would've been much better! I wouldn't normally waste good drugs on a movie, but man, watching say, Blade Runner on that was insanely good! Utterly immersive. They should sell it alongside the popcorn Twisted Evil
“I sometimes marvel at how far I’ve come - blissful, even, in the knowledge that I am slowly becoming a well-evolved human being - only to have the illusion shattered by an episode of bad behaviour that contradicts the new and reinforces the old. At these junctures of self-reflection, I ask the question: “are all my years of hard work unraveling before my eyes, or am I just having an episode?” For the sake of personal growth and the pursuit of equanimity, I choose the latter and accept that, on this journey of evolution, I may not encounter just one bad day, but a group of many.”
― B.G. Bowers

 
#6dream
#3 Posted : 10/8/2017 8:53:07 AM
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Thanks Chan: appreciated.

MXE is one that nearly got away completely. I was given a pill as a freebie by the local head shop, just before it became illegal here and almost impossible to get hold of. At the time I had never experienced a dissociative, so I was even more cautious than usual. Darn it! :-)

I am not expecting anything at all from the mainstream media, but if there is anything it will probably be vitriolic. I suspect its best chance is word of mouth, but you never know. A surprising positive is how widely Amazon have referenced it on their own property and how quickly. I'm sure that is algorithmic but nonetheless they have placed it in some interesting categories.

Some people have also suggested that I can expect a visit from the local constabulary. I doubt that, to be honest, but obviously the house is squeaky clean anyway. It's all part of a journey I guess.

Talking of which.... you will have seen my less than impressive efforts with DMT itself. I promise myself right here and now that if there is ever a second edition it will include a much more successful outcome.



 
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#4 Posted : 10/9/2017 9:07:02 AM

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Haha, I don't think you have anything to worry about there...I think DMT does you, rather than the other way around...all in good time.

Your description of yohimbe was spot on too. Years ago, a friend gave me a small sack of it, 500g IIRC. With zero information available, I made a tea from 1 tablespoon, so maybe 8-10g?

Being single and alone at the time, the persistent rigidity (which was undimmed even by frequent attempts at relief) which quickly manifested itself was literally, striking. But with a cramping and spasming gut, gettin jiggy was the last thing on my mind.

I went to the bathroom to try and bend it below the horizontal, and take a leak, and there in the mirror was satan looking back at me! The whites of my eyes had vanished, replaced by dark glassy red triangles... I wouldn't even have done me at that point, so yeah, I would caution any others interested in its definite aphrodisiac effects to, dose very carefully!

The other thing I forgot to say, is I really really like your use of short, succinct paragraphs to lead the reader through subjects which might otherwise confuse/intimidate them. Other writers should take note. I'm always amazed by people who claim to have had all the secrets of the cosmos revealed to them, during an epic journey, and attempt to document it in a gushing 5000 word block of text. If they haven't even been shown how to use the return key, then I seriously question the validity of their other insights...!

“I sometimes marvel at how far I’ve come - blissful, even, in the knowledge that I am slowly becoming a well-evolved human being - only to have the illusion shattered by an episode of bad behaviour that contradicts the new and reinforces the old. At these junctures of self-reflection, I ask the question: “are all my years of hard work unraveling before my eyes, or am I just having an episode?” For the sake of personal growth and the pursuit of equanimity, I choose the latter and accept that, on this journey of evolution, I may not encounter just one bad day, but a group of many.”
― B.G. Bowers

 
#6dream
#5 Posted : 10/9/2017 9:28:53 AM
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Yohimbe. :-)

I was taken completely by surprise, I have to admit. I'd seen similar claims for other botanicals but they had always fallen short. This was the real deal. It was a bit like a chemsex amphetamine-type drug, but a plant.

It really is a shame about the risks, particularly given the reports of hallucinogenic effects with higher doses. With respect to the warnings, I was restrained with my dose, as you know, but you can't have been far off psychedelic territory on yours.

I must admit that I didn't look in a mirror, which was probably a good thing.
 
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#6 Posted : 10/9/2017 9:58:44 AM

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I have to say, it didn't feel like there was any psychedelic potential there, the gut-ache and sweating made sure of that. But maybe in a much smaller dose, with a suitable admixture (iboga?) or similar, perhaps... Either way, I haven't been back since, and I let the sack go. It's possible I had some ginseng in my system too, back then I do recall using it fairly regularly, and Snu Voogelbreinder alludes to a possible interaction there. Also, I probably fasted prior to use, so blood-sugar would not have been too high...!

Garden of Eden wrote:
Dose suggestions for C. johimbe bark vary widely and it would be wise to establish individual tolerance before trying high doses. Some suggest using 2-4g (Torsten pers. comm.), though Miller (1985) suggested 30g! I suspect this latter figure may be due to the use of low-quality bark. Bark shavings are prepared non-traditionally by bringing 2 cups of water to a boil, reducing to a simmer, adding the juice from 1⁄4 of a lemon or lime [see Citrus] or c.1g ascorbic acid, and then adding the powdered root bark and simmering for a further 10 minutes. This brew is then filtered through coffee-filter papers while still hot, then cooled to room temperature for consumption. The material may be more effectively extracted by soaking in alcohol for c.8 hours, before straining and evaporating the alcohol to leave a crude alkaloidal residue. The purpose of adding a source of vitamin C is to increase the absorption of yohimbine and other alkaloids, as well as reducing the time to onset of effects. The tea is quite bitter, and ascorbic acid also reduces the likelihood of nausea. It is reported to be best consumed as quickly as possible. Effects of plain tea may be felt in 30-60 minutes; the alcohol extract in 10-20 minutes. Effects include warm tingles up the spine, relaxation of limbs, hypertension, mental stimulation, mild perceptual alterations in higher doses, and often a spontaneous erection lasting several hours, due to stimulation of the spinal ganglia which control penile erectile tissue. Lower doses of yohimbine are more effective for sexual purposes than higher doses. When used as a sexual tonic, 250-500mg may be taken every morning after food. Due to yohimbine’s MAOI activity, it should not be taken with amphetamines or tyramine-rich foods; also should not be taken by those with kidney, liver or heart problems, or by diabetics or hypoglycaemics. Combined with tricyclic antidepressants, dangerous hypertension may result (Crenshaw & Goldberg 1996; Fugh-Berman 2000; Miller 1985; Rätsch 1992; Torsten pers. comm.). Yohimbe can also interact dangerously with dextromethorphan [DXM] (pers. comm.).
It is suggested that blood-sugar levels be kept high when consuming yohimbe, to reduce the incidence of unpleasant reactions. Drinking a glass of milk immediately before consumption has also been suggested to minimise unwanted side-effects (Torsten pers. comm.). Chocolate [see Theobroma] should not be consumed, even with small doses of yohimbe. Ginseng [see Panax] also interacts with yohimbe so that only 1⁄4 of the usual yohimbe dose may be needed for the same level of effect (theobromus pers. comm.).


I confess I was a bit surprised not to see this book in your otherwise comprehensive bibliography.
“I sometimes marvel at how far I’ve come - blissful, even, in the knowledge that I am slowly becoming a well-evolved human being - only to have the illusion shattered by an episode of bad behaviour that contradicts the new and reinforces the old. At these junctures of self-reflection, I ask the question: “are all my years of hard work unraveling before my eyes, or am I just having an episode?” For the sake of personal growth and the pursuit of equanimity, I choose the latter and accept that, on this journey of evolution, I may not encounter just one bad day, but a group of many.”
― B.G. Bowers

 
#6dream
#7 Posted : 10/9/2017 12:07:03 PM
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Ginseng? I considered it, but I didn't see much in the literature to convince me that it was psychoactive. I am not claiming that it is dud, but it felt a little like scraping the barrel (which admittedly I did on occasions).
 
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#8 Posted : 10/9/2017 12:54:04 PM

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From the same book:

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P. ginseng is anxiolytic; stimulates the immune system; regulates the CNS; relieves fatigue; enhances memory, learning, alertness and other cognitive functions; increases cerebral circulation; prevents or compensates for damage to the nervous and endocrine systems caused by stress; inhibits uptake of dopamine, GABA, glutamate, norepinephrine and serotonin in rat brain; increases rate of alcohol metabolism; acts as an aphrodisiac; stimulates liver function, including synthesis of RNA, DNA and vital proteins; strengthens the heart; helps prevent and heal stomach ulcers; balances hormone activity, protects and stimulates adrenal function; counteracts intoxication, and helps relieve hangover; is an antioxidant and free-radical scavenger; helps heal deformities of the cornea, especially clouding; regulates blood-sugar, blood pressure, and red and white blood-cell count according to the body’s need; and shows some antitumour and anticancer activity in humans. It should not be combined with the pharmaceutical drug phenelzine, as headaches and tremor may result.


So, any psychoactivity aside, it modulates lots of things, and inhibits some important enzymes too, which together mean it's probably a bad candidate for 'spontaneous unresearched combinations'...such as may have occurred with me!


Quote:
An In vitro study assessing the interactions of ginsenosides found that Panax Ginseng was able to reduce the catalytic activity of CYP1A1 and CYP1A2 (two variants of Aromatase) and CYP1B1 in a dose-dependent manner that correlated with Ginsenoside content.[45] The inhibition appeared to be competitive for CYP1A1 and mixed for the other two, with CYP1A2 being more susceptable

https://examine.com/supp...anax-ginseng/#summary3-1

None of us are above scraping barrels, IME, it's just some barrels are more attractive than others Big grin
“I sometimes marvel at how far I’ve come - blissful, even, in the knowledge that I am slowly becoming a well-evolved human being - only to have the illusion shattered by an episode of bad behaviour that contradicts the new and reinforces the old. At these junctures of self-reflection, I ask the question: “are all my years of hard work unraveling before my eyes, or am I just having an episode?” For the sake of personal growth and the pursuit of equanimity, I choose the latter and accept that, on this journey of evolution, I may not encounter just one bad day, but a group of many.”
― B.G. Bowers

 
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#9 Posted : 10/9/2017 2:11:14 PM
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"None of us are above scraping barrels, IME, it's just some barrels are more attractive than others"
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#10 Posted : 10/10/2017 12:44:23 PM
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Chan... sadly "New members can only post messages to the moderator"... or words to that effect. So my lengthy reply to your PM was to no avail. Sad
 
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