Personally my favourite is 2cb because the visuals can be amazing, and the headspace is very forgiving.

I remember my first time jumping up to 36mg and there was a flowing kaleidoscope of blue lights on my wall in front of me, really amazing stuff.

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i think the closest thing to a recreational psychedelic would be LSD-25 for me, and particularly in a dose range of 110ug-220ug
and thats mostly because LSD is so flexible and compatible with me, when i take it there is no fear or anxiety like you'd experience in a dmt rush
i had this theory that, many of these respected babas yogis malangs druids etc etc are living on either an acid comedown or the peak
because what i experience in that state, the flow, the clarity, the vibrant nature of breathing and being, seems to be evident in these people too
and far as i see, these people are constantly enjoying themselves (joyus) (yesod) (Śūnyatā)
when you posted this topic it was really interesting to me, because we rarely discuss this anymore, there is a fear for recreational aspects of these psychedelics because people don't wanna be categorized as pleasure seekers (and eventually, lack of self-control)
but i think thats horse-s***
people can't be healthy if they aren't in a state of joy, who says people are not to enjoy their life ? and who says anyone can learn that constant joy without tasting it first ? just my opinion
LSD allowed me to stop being a stranger to myself, it allows me to feel my blood pumping and little by little sweeping over muscles and my insides, it allowed me to understand my nerves and my bones, it allowed me to free my emotions and let them flow, i find great value in it, LSD allows me to understand strange topics that i can't comprehend normally, that is a true gift, the spectrum in which a functional dose of LSD can benefit anyone is beyond explaining, BECAUSE, it is like you telling you, remove ignorance now

Yep, I totally agree! There's absolutely nothing wrong with taking psychedelics for recreation, it is how I started off taking them anyway. Psychedelics have been described as self regulating.

I noticed in my recreational trips that I was getting insight into my daily, sober life too and came to realize that they can play a role in both recreation and as entheogens, that is when I got interested in psychonautics and started using psyches for both ends of the spectrum.

My first trip (LSD) was rather magical, I felt so happy and it was a breath of fresh air to have my thoughts flowing easier about the universe and my own reality.

As for these monks, this enlightenment they reach could simply be from years of devotion to meditation or yoga which you can actually achieve psychedelic-like states through! Although I wouldn't go as far to say that many of them haven't enjoyed their fair share of mescaline or psilocybin mushrooms!

Try eating a few grams of mushrooms then watching the fireworks on the 4th of july ... it never gets old!

Cactus, especially when it's a bit MDMA'ey.

I look forward to trying mescaline, it's supposed to be pretty entactogenic yeah! Would a mescaline and MDMA combination be called a cactus flip?

For me the most recreational was always genuine LSD. It produces the least anxiety, the least side effects, it generally teaches its lessons with kid gloves, and its nice and slow so my brain doesnt reel in shock and I have time to savor the really cool bits.
Aya and mushrooms are far less forgiving when they want to teach me something. That doesnt mean I dont value them greatly though, just that I wouldnt take them for fun.
My friends sometimes rave about the 2C-X class but I havent tried them, theyre rare in my country and possess a substitution pattern known to produce hepatotoxic pharmaceuticals. It sure didnt change my mind when Shulgin got liver cancer, his favorite was 2C-B [well, and he drank too, lol]
For me Salvia d. is not recreational in any way.
I want to like mescaline. I really do. Many others do. But to date I've only had raw cactus or cactus tea and that reliably makes my body ache all over like I have arthritis from head to toe. I've given up on cactus tea but for a new project I got 40 kilos of good cactus stems to extract into dirty sanchez and white mescaline hydrochloride. I really want to find a way to like mescaline

low dose to mid dose of mescaline hcl

Incredible at any dosage though for recrational lower dosage is best for me, spending the day outside in nature.

2C-B-Fly
Very nice feel to it. Not something that will overwhelm you in the right dosage. Strong visuals.
Nearly 0 mind effects. So you can basically do anything you want. I find it to be less infringing on generall "doing stuff" than weed.

Mesc, or more often cactus syrup. The stimulation helps me get lots done in the yard or have a really good hike on a hot summer's day and it makes the sky, trees and flowers that much more beautiful.

For me the answer is with out question LSD. In light doses (sub 40ug) the effects are stimulating and joyful and pleasant. The increase in sociability is sense of inflated self image is wonderful. To feel attractive and to find evryrhibg interesting makes for a great day. Higher doses, of course, require more planning but are so inexpressibly beautiful and fun. Negative physical side effects are easily mitigated and for me, the headspace is much more manageable than mushrooms or DMT or cactus.

LSD is my phychedelic soul food. My triply security blanket. The familiar and strange all at once.

LSD for me too.

200-250mics will bring everything up and make it real. There's no escaping my thoughts on that sort of dose. Great for processing life, letting go, forgiving, resolving, having fun, everything.

Oh, and DMT to take the edge of the come down for sure.

Pure mescaline, LSD, ayahuasca (i never puke on aya), and oral cannnabis. Oral cannabis can be pretty psychedelic for me. 1 gram of hash dissolved in a small amount of olive oil (1 to 2 spoons), taken on an empty stomach is quite trippy...and very nice.

Oral cannabis in combination with LSD or shrooms is great. But only with small amounts of cannabis. Definately less than half a gram.

Bufotenin goes very well with shrooms, ayahuasca and LSD. I haven't tried it with mescaline.
On it's own it's boring for me, as it's just Visuals, basically. If you take it with other psychedelics, it's realy fantastic. It takes your Visual and aural effects to a next level.

17 mg 2C-B on 125 mg MDMA comedown is the best recreational combo I had

If I had to choose just one substance, then LSD for sure.

Sometimes I take small dose of shrooms (1.5 grams of P. Cubensis) and watch a movie, do yoga - then sometimes take 20 mg DMT (in 1:1 change) at the end of mushroom trip - they somehow guide the DMT trip for me

I've definitely found oral cannabis psychedelic. I put half a gram of Amnesia Haze (a strain described as being pretty psychedelic on its own) into a firecracker, skip forward two hours later and I'm getting OEVs and a somewhat psychedelic headspace.

I would advise people to be cautious mixing cannabis with psychedelics.
Not because it can be bad, but because it can be unexpectedly mind blowingly good!
My tripping mate and I had a custom where we would drop acid at 10 pm and hike in the forest all night. We routinely smoked cannabis along the way.
One day, when I brought along a new sativa strain, we were peaking on a respectable but easily managed dose of LSD we both took a hit of the new sativa. We immediately fell through this world into gumby land! It was by a very wide margin the farthest either of us had ever gone. The sky immediately turned into psychedelic pastel clay, the beach turned into neon orange clay, my friend turned into clay, two people who were probably just glaring at us turned into leaves spiraling around each other in the wind. That batch of weed became cherished and very nearly worshiped until it ran out
But holy shit was it a surprise.

Yeah, i had a few of those surprisingly good experiences as well. But you're right, it's an extremely potent combination, so be carefull.

smoking canna on lsd

Offtopic, but @Dragonrider:



Is there anywhere a more detailed report about your experiences with Bufo (ROA, dosage, duration, ...). Also the come-up speed would be interesting, as I read in a paper that it has much bigger problems crossing the BBB than e.g. 5-MeO-DMT.

Would be very interested, as there is IMHO a severe lack of proper reports about this substance.
69ron once wrote it is extremely visual, but without the mindfuck. Would you say the same?

If there isn't a report by you yet, please make one in the Bufo section...

I'm mainly interested, because partly 5-MeO-DMT gets metabolized into Bufotenin (via CYP2D6), and there are quite some different reports about visual effects on 5-MeO-DMT. (e.g. for me it isn't visual at all)

So I'm wondering, if the people who have quite some visuals on 5-MeO-DMT get it from Bufotenin.

BTW: I find low dose DOM quite recreational.



For me too. Oral cannabis is extremely psychedelic for me. But I also had it in quite high dosages (we split a complete plant into 6)...which gave very strong OEVs...