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#1 Posted : 10/8/2009 10:17:22 PM
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The far-righties in the USA want to rewrite/edit the bible, according to the huffington post.
They think the current version is not far-right enough.

It's gonna be a bit difficult for them in the future to use the bible as an argument to hate and kill everything that lives except unborn babies; if they are gonna justify their insane behaviour, like any possible attempt to assasinate the current US president, saying that "the bible says so", we will gonna have to ask them "wich bible, the one that you wrote yourself ?".
It's also gonna be a bit of a problem why it is OK for them to rewrite/edit the bible, and not for everybody else.

I can imagine, each group is going to have their own version of the bible soon; there's gonna be a gay-bible, marihuana smokers-bible, abortion-bible, euthanasia-bible, atheists-bible, al-qaida terrorist-bible....maybe i'm gonna write my own one two.

But how are they going to call the bible belt in the future?
 

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#2 Posted : 10/9/2009 12:03:46 AM

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It's already been edited and rewritted and retranslated a bunch of times. I'm sure they can't fuck it up more that it already is.
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#3 Posted : 10/9/2009 12:19:48 AM

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a marihuana smokers-bible? marijuana users smoke the bible! ...sometimes. i've heard stories that it gets you super, super high.
Hows that for editing & rewriting?! 8xD
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#4 Posted : 10/9/2009 12:57:28 AM

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Yeah, interesting that some groups think the bible has become a tool of the "liberals", and want to rewrite it to remove liberal bias. Too funny.

Stephen Colbert has put a call out to his followers to go to conservapedia.com and write him into the bible...
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#5 Posted : 10/9/2009 2:46:29 PM
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This world is more surreal than any surreal work of art could ever be.

Question remains; how can you justify your prejudice towards the entre world on ancient lore, if you start editting until it entirely fit's your prejudice's, it's a circle.

I could start editting the bible so that it says my bible is the only true one, all the other bibles suck and are full of shit and i'm jesus.

How could they be against that?
 
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#6 Posted : 10/9/2009 4:48:21 PM

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Well, we all know how true to the origional practices christianity has stayed..of course we all know how christmas and easter are actaully origional christian traditions..you know..the wreath, mistletoe, yule trees, santa clause and reindeer..these are all rooted in ancient christianity..no doubt about it..of course they dont steel other tradtions and rewrite theyr religion in order to defragment other cultures...but we all know thatWink
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#7 Posted : 10/9/2009 5:10:51 PM

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it's the same everywhere, the extremist don't have a clue what their one religion's about...they only see it as a manipulating device..religion's dead really!
 
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"ANOTHER rewrite???

Dear god, how far away from the original texts can we get. Anyone ever heard of the game "telephone", well imagine that, over hundres of years through hundres of people...that's the original text from which the bible was formed form.

Now imagine a bunch of ultra-conservatives picking and choosing from those texts, translating it to fit their beliefs...that's early versions of the bible.

Now imagine the early versions being re-translated and re-writen AGAIN (to fit again with their beliefs)

Now imagine Pat Robertson doing yet another re-write....I mean really. How is ANYONE supposed to take the bible litterally anymore....yet many do.

Another re-write of that thing is going to make it pretty much just a bunch of misquotes, misinterpretations, and a belief system based on thousands of years or stuffy white men sitting around changing words to help control the masses.

Sad, very sad.

Modern Christanity is so far from the original teaching of Jesus that it's just sad."

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#9 Posted : 10/9/2009 6:21:36 PM

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time to let go of all these dogmas, all it does is keep us apart.
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#10 Posted : 10/12/2009 8:33:15 AM

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I think the Christian Bible was purposefully mistranslated (contaminated), so that the true people of God are forced to rediscover the Truth not from a book, but from their own hearts. In the end, this will lead to a death and rebirth of the Church, exactly as God intended. Smile
 
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#11 Posted : 10/12/2009 12:17:06 PM
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In Revelations there is a warning that anyone who changes a single word of the Bible will burn in hell for all eternity.

Nobody in the far 'right' is really a Christian anyway. 'Right' wing beliefs contradict Christianity entirely. Jesus was actually an anarcho-communist, which is pretty much the opposite of what the 'right' believe in. The only religious organisations that could be said to try to live as he and his friends did are known as Primitive Christians (although Jesus drank wine and hung out with the socially excluded, but I'm not sure if they did).

Unfortunately the vaguaries of translation have enabled meanings in the Bible to change a little by the choosing of words. Words and the way sentences are expressed have different connotations depending on how they are used... in fact words even change in meaning over time, so what the people who wrote the texts meant by a word may be different to how we now understand the word. Ancient idiom may also be misinterpreted now. The different versions of the Bible that we have at the moment are just different translations, also depending on which scrolls it was copied from because there were small differences in the content of ancient texts. Perhaps this is why the earliest stories contradict themselves in a few instances. The Bible I read as a child, however, had footnotes to explain whenever a different translation would give a different meaning or whenever one ancient text differs from another, no doubt to cover themselves against the warning in Revelations.

However, the largest manipulation of the Bible was done by the Romans- the book itself is actually only a collection of scripture compiled/edited by the Romans after their conversion. Romans! The inperialists who first persecuted the primitive Christians (symbol=fish), then converted and turned the religion into a death-cult (symbol=crucifix) and used it as a means of control (likewise the kings of the barbarian hoardes forced convertion upon their populations because they found Christians more controllable than pagans). The Roman Catholic Church bowed before a crucifix and burnt all who opposed them alive at the stake, at the same time as the Aztecs were bowing before their god of death (among other more benign gods) and sacricing their own victims in his honour. The Romans manipulated the message by deciding which texts could be included, and which would be left out and declared heresy. In this way, the feminist Gospel of Mary Magdalene was excluded as heresy because it empowered women. The Gnostic Gospel of Thomas was excluded as heresy because it promoted finding enlightenment yourself intellectually rather than being spoonfed by the elite, as were all the others that portrayed the religion in a different light, such as the ones that declared Jesus to be god himself, declaring Jesus to be just a man, or declaring the vengeful Old Testament God to be a different god than the New Testament god of love and forgiveness. I would encourage all Christians here first to read the Bible in its entirity, then read the excluded Gospels. Just reading the current Bible alone will show you how very different modern Christianity is from what it is meant to be.

[P.s. I am not a Christian. I only know all this because I was raised one, and researched deeply to a much greater extent than I had been taught by my culture before deciding to stop calling myself Christian. However, I still believe Jesus to have been a righteous and inspiring guy.]
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#12 Posted : 10/12/2009 6:08:48 PM

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in some ways I think Christianity was a sun worshipping cult.
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#13 Posted : 10/12/2009 7:35:30 PM
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while the holidays followed in catholicism are ancient pagan holidays Christianity itself doesn't provide worship but certain perversions of the texts provide holidays and traditions based in sun worship
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#14 Posted : 10/12/2009 7:40:43 PM

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fractal enchantment wrote:
in some ways I think Christianity was a sun worshipping cult.


The first part of the Zietgiest Movie clearly spells out how the whole Chirstian religion is likely an astrological allegory of sun worship.

http://www.youtube.com/w...next_from=PL&index=4
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#15 Posted : 10/13/2009 3:39:43 AM

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New Bible Old Bible what ever you call it still smells the same. To me the aroma is disgustingShocked Its the stench of death from corpses of war, prejudice, ignorance and the desire to control.
There are some good points in the bible but as we all know it is mostly rubbish like most if not all so called religious texts or proclamations. All the Big world wide religions do far more damage to society than any benefit they can provide in my opinion.


Maybe 100 years from now world society will see religion as we here at the Nexus see it today. I hope so it is long overdue. It saddens me to see intelligent people living there lives like a child in a fairy tale, it is truly ABSURD.


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#16 Posted : 10/13/2009 4:25:26 AM
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At least the crazies won't be able to appeal to tradition. It's good that they'll be less able to hold sway with 'average' voters, but I'd still prefer we didn't have these fringe groups intent on setting up separate, insular societies where they can breed more crazy.
 
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#17 Posted : 10/13/2009 5:27:22 PM
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Yes it's true. Even osama bin laden hasn't come up yet with the idea of editing the koran because the current one doesn't endorse terrorism enough.

The far-right in the USA and elsewhere has reached a level of ridiculousness that is unrivaled. If it wheren't so scary it would be hilarious at times.

And they are so extremely negative.

When they say they're pro-life, it means: killing doctor's who perform abortions. Pro-family means: anti-gay and anti-alternative ways of living (unmarried couples, single mothers and fathers, etc)
pro-american means: Seeking all possible means to destroy other nations, pro-israel means: anti-palestine, etc.

There's never anything positive about them. There is never something they actually are in favor of. They only want to destroy things.
 
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#18 Posted : 10/13/2009 5:35:38 PM

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^yes it's true..Ihave had close friends in the past who were so far right christian that I had to distance myself from them and eventually cut off all contact. I had a friend who's family ws soo deep into it, and I went to a chirch camp with them in grade 5 or something and I was told there that I would go to hell if I didn't start attending church and worshipping because the bible said so..

They said god was here forever..I asked what about before forever..surely there must be something more.."he was just here forever" was the reponce I got over and over again..how can a "He" be here forever?..god as a man never made one bit of sense to me. Ever since then I hated christianity..

They even tried to tell me halloween was evil..and told me I should come to theyr prayer night instead.. yeah right..as if..
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#19 Posted : 10/13/2009 7:46:39 PM
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Yeah, you'l always see some TV-priest warning about the dangers of harry-potter books and movies, because it would turn your child into a satanistLaughing about batman comics and movies, because it would turn your child into a homosexualLaughing or about the healthcare 'deathpanels'Laughing Laughing Laughing ,Oh no, that last one wasn't a priest but that woman who sees russia floating by on a daily basis.
 
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Yeah, you'l always see some TV-priest warning about the dangers of harry-potter books and movies, because it would turn your child into a satanistLaughing about batman comics and movies, because it would turn your child into a homosexualLaughing or about the healthcare 'deathpanels'Laughing Laughing ,Oh no, that last one wasn't a priest but that woman who sees russia floating by on a daily basis.


No Harry Potter here but I did read about this guy from LA who supposedly went to Mexico and ran into this old Indian man who took him out in the desert with lizards with eyes and mouth sewn shut and let him rub a Datura based fatty ointment on his temples and sit by himself in the desert.Laughing Laughing :

I turned out ok Laughing Laughing at age 14 I knew not to become delirious on Datura or one may wake up in a filthy drainage ditch filled with scum and alge with a five foot tall elerdy indian holding ones head out or the water cooling you down.Laughing Laughing

I seem to recall reading the entire series of such books of course I did not necessarily believe it all but it was interesting at the time and I still laugh when I picture the Datura Drainage Ditch scenes. I laughed when I first read it and am laughing nowLaughing Laughing

I hate to even mention Datura again for awile but cant describe the "Don Jaun" books without mentioning itShocked


The bible rewiters and such people can be good for a laugh time to time because it is just so ridiculous and over the top the wacky things they come up with. Thats life like the guy in the salvia vid recently postedLaughing Surprised You just have to ride it out until its overLaughing Because you most likely wont be figuring things out any time soon in this here or now.Laughing

Like the salvia guy there may be clues but you cant remember them can youLaughing I know I have yet to be able to.

It seems a 5min trip to the library is all you get. And you may not remove the reference materials or check out any of the books. I try to pay attention Wink


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