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Michael Hunter
#1 Posted : 8/18/2017 11:44:12 PM
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Hi fellow members,
I am researching the process of converting 5-Meo-DMT HCL to the free base using Sodium Hydroxide (SH) and alcohol.

As there seems to be any number of quality and purity grades of SH, I wonder to what extent one or another form is significant to obtaining the best results.
So, that's one question I have, does it matter what percentage, form or level of purity of SH one uses, as long as one reaches the correct ph level of the mix?

And secondly, what happens to the SH after the conversion is done? Does the alcohol or the process of conversion itself evaporate it? or is there a way of ensuring that it does not end up as a component in the free base?
I sure don't want to be inhaling it.

And, thirdly, what form, grade, or percentage of SH do you recommend for this process?

I would appreciate some advice as I have little training in organic chemistry.

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The above is a safe and simple method to freebase your 5meo using sodium carbonate. No need for lye.

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#3 Posted : 8/19/2017 12:01:35 AM

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Look at tseuq's recent post, where this procedure was described. Sodium carbonate will suffice and it's easy to make your own at food grade using sodium bicarbonate - baking soda. Heat the baking soda (not baking powder!!) in a stainless steel pan until it stops levitating. Then your product - sodium carbonate - is ready to use.

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I would appreciate some advice as I have little training in organic chemistry.

This is hardly organic, it is much more like inorganic chemistry with an incidental organic cation. If you're at this stage of learning just hold back on obtaining the sodium hydroxide for a bit until you're more confident.

Sodium carbonate will do the job just fine, perhaps better than the hydroxide for this purpose.

EDIT: TGO beat me to it!




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