We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
Freebased HBWR sublingually? Options
 
kemist
#1 Posted : 10/1/2009 5:40:55 PM

John


Posts: 700
Joined: 31-Aug-2008
Last visit: 27-Jan-2024
Location: Highland
Parrot mostly beeing imensly tummy sick after drinking HBWR macerate(either coffee or mint tea ones) even after ingesting up to 9 seeds of datura stramonium( he NEVER-EVER would take higher dose of datura stramonium ! )
yeah seeds weren`t from hawaii so they`ve been probably higher in uterotoxines then in lsa. yet they`ve caused noticeable psychedelic effects.

MR JORKEST inspired parrot TO USE HBWR SUBLINGUALLY.

Parrot has an idea to grind about 10 seeds mixed them with base At begining, he thinking using of sodium carbonate 1 part :10 parts of hbwr dust and just for comparsion freebase other part (from the same batch of seeds) with just sodium bicarbonate 1:5
obviously mixed it with little of cold parboiled tap water, and make a dough which can be used sublingually.
Say after 20-30 mins one would spit it out and rinse his mouth , so nothing will go down the gut and act there in hostile manner.
This should be tested soon
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 

Good quality Syrian rue (Peganum harmala) for an incredible price!
 
kemist
#2 Posted : 10/6/2009 7:49:36 AM

John


Posts: 700
Joined: 31-Aug-2008
Last visit: 27-Jan-2024
Location: Highland
EXCELLENT !!!

Parrot is very happy as he used his frebased mix sublingually and wasn`t tummy sick (neither vomited nor shat himself) Laughing

So he grinded 1 gram of his seeds to almost powdery form(with some bigger chunks), then add to it 0.05g (50 mg)of sodium carbonate and mixed it with few drops of cold parboiled water, to create a little bit sticky yellow dough.

He applied this dough under his tongue and held it for 15 minutes in fairly dry mouth. After 15 minutes saliva started to flow uncontrollable and slowly diluted the dough..... Sad Still he managed to hold it another 15 minutes,before he spat it out.

It vas VERY GREEN Shocked Shocked Shocked when he spat it out. Dark green like a grass. He has no idea how high was th pH but he certainly overkill it as the colur changed so dramaticly.

Anyway it did work as good as 12 seed macerate made out of the same batch. Only it comes on earlier and last a wee bit shorter. Both times he used 6 datura seeds and yohimbe power extract(16 mg yohinbe alkaloids 100mg lecithin and 24mg lipase) to counteract negtative effect.

He was nauseous and shat himself after drinking that bloody macerate, but non of this nonsense happened when used sublingually.
The reason could be simply that high pH destroyed some of the toxic alkaloids or they just not acttive when taken sublingually

He will try freebase it just with sodium bicarbonate next time and see how he gonna feel about it

Can`t wait it looks promissing Wink
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
Seven
#3 Posted : 10/6/2009 3:05:24 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 520
Joined: 18-Jan-2008
Last visit: 28-Jan-2016
can calcium hydroxide be used to freebase also?
The universe is an infinite harmony of vibrating beings in an elaborate range of expansion-contraction ratios, frequency modulations, and so forth.
 
kemist
#4 Posted : 10/6/2009 10:52:28 PM

John


Posts: 700
Joined: 31-Aug-2008
Last visit: 27-Jan-2024
Location: Highland
Seven wrote:
can calcium hydroxide be used to freebase also?

It can be used in very litle ammounts , say 10mg on 1g of seed powder, but it`s unnecessarily strong base.

Even sodium carbonate it`s too strong and caused that mixture turned green when only 50mg was added to 1 gram of powdered seed

Parrot is a bit ill now( bird flu or something ) so he can`t try sodium bicarbonate(baking soda) yet

He wanna use 2oo mg of baking soda(NaHCO3) with 1 g of seed powder.
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
Jorkest
#5 Posted : 10/6/2009 11:10:39 PM

DMT-Nexus member

Moderator | Skills: Extraction Troubleshooting, (S)elf ProgrammingChemical expert | Skills: Extraction Troubleshooting, (S)elf Programming

Posts: 4342
Joined: 02-Oct-2008
Last visit: 19-Jan-2024
why exactly are you trying to freebase it?

and when SWIM did it...he would just grind up the seeds and then place them under his tongue..not swallowing anything...including any spit..and then he would spit it all out after 15-20 minutes...

works fine that way...but you need to use nine seeds instead of like six(orally)
it's a sound
 
kemist
#6 Posted : 10/7/2009 10:26:43 AM

John


Posts: 700
Joined: 31-Aug-2008
Last visit: 27-Jan-2024
Location: Highland
HELLO Jorkest, how are you. Thanx for the idea
Jorkest wrote:
why exactly are you trying to freebase it?

Parrot does know that freebasing isn`t necessary but he also know that alkaloids in basic enviroment passing trough tissues in mouth quicker and more effective. See virola resin : it work on it`s own but when freebased it`s work better

He also believe that higher pH help release alkaloids from plant matter.

Sorry if this sounds untraditional, but he just speculating, that`s what they taught him on university

Jorkest wrote:

but you need to use nine seeds instead of like six(orally)

That`s doesn`t make sense. LESS seeds should be required when using this route of administration
That`s another reason why is he freebasing(or alkalising) the seed powder




Jorkest wrote:


..not swallowing anything...including any spit..and then he would spit it all out after 15-20 minutes...

He knows.
He hold it under his tongue for 30 minutes. After 15 minutes saliva start to flow in his mouth but he didn`t swallow anything and hold it another 15 minutes before spitting it all out!
As a kemist I never met ILPT in physical form and never talk to him. He share his wisdom, trough my mind, telepathicly only. Please don`t prosecute me, for his possible illegal activities. He is bonkers about chemistry and doesn`t even exist in this primitive reality !!!
 
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest (3)

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.017 seconds.