right... where do you think I got it wrong?

I think this might be where the problem is, mimosa bark should be very rich with alkaloids and tannins and taste extremely bitter. Unfortunately, it sounds like your bark might not be up to par.

^ I agree with dreamer042. I tried a bit of Mimosa cold water extraction once and it was horrible, never tasted a liquid like that. A mouthfeel like ultra-bitter dry powder! Much, much worse than Rue tea.

Fair... I'll try extracting the DMT freebase out that bark then

thanks a lot!

tannins, they react with the proteins in your saliva and cause precipitation, so your saliva no longer lubricates for your tongue and mouth, gives that strange dry rough puckery texture.

Ok, it's been a while now but the freebase is finally extracted from the bark and it came out to be 0.4g out of 50g bark.
So 0.9%

I'm thinking to try chewing some rue seeds and then eat 0.05g of freebase. How does that sound?

Up to you... but brew the rue. Depending on your body weight (and the amount of rue you ingest) 50mg could prove to be alarming. Or equally, totally underwhelming.

Have you found any guideline doses anywhere for your body weight? I mean you have done some research, haven't you?

Yeah i have done research, enough to figure out that i needed now to carry out some first hand experiments, cause i've entirely spent my last month on this forum exploring it in depths and breadths but every new answer inevitably brings in new multiple questions. So I run the experiment and here how it went:

17:15 ingested 4g of raw rue seeds crushed into a powder

[tasted weird but alright, helped it with some water and didn't give nausea but only very mild almost imperceptible body buzz]

17:30 bombed down 0.04g of freebase

[waited for an hour and a half but all i felt was muscle relaxation and my mind a bit volatile, classic sensations that i get from come ups with psychedelic]

~ 19:00 smoked 0.04g in a bong coating the freebase with tobacco and trying to burn the tobacco slowly.

[didn't smoke 0.04g all at once but separated it in two halves. At first visual acuity was enhanced quite a lot and patterns in the paint of the walls where highlighted and i could see all edges slightly coloured in fluorescent light as well as changes in my mind state happened (my thought processes were different from "normality". While the second half gave me quite intense visuals, could see crazy geometrical patterns and i wasn't expecting it actually so i got kinda scared and got quickly lost in my thoughts, but for a minute or maybe two it's been pure visual madness]

21:00 - 24:00 come down

[feeling exhausted i relaxedly chatted until midnight with my friend i tripped with and then went to sleep]

Woke up this morning feeling new and fresh, as if at the dawn of a new trip, happy and calmly eager to make my days to come.

Very nice experience

Why by the cow when you can have the milk for free Comes to mind sorta


Coming from a regular drinker and brewer of ayahuasca and aya derivatives you want to drink reductions , think about your favorite food dish , you wouldnt eat that raw would you? A big mental manny chow chopping down on a slapb of red kubo red meat ? No sir , yours is a filtered finalization of long labored culinary lusting , why do it any different with Syrian rue and it s partner In sublime. Take the time , reduce the nausea , make your destiny man!!!

hey forest, i had tried the brew already with 5g rue and 5g mimosa and it didn't work so i tried changing method.