and honestly I brought up your fear of mullien on a professional herbalism forum and they all cracked up... seriously its been used for hundreds of years lol...

frac you seem to be one of the rightous changa travelers... you got it... there is this art to mixing the herbs and creating the formulas thats just too amazing...
SWIM made a particular one for healing, protectign and cleaning malignant influences. vervain, mugwart, syrian rue, sage, palo santo, agua de ruda, kyanite and smokey quarts with tibetian double terminated quarts, 10x concentrated caapi leaf... woweee zoweee... does the trick... i tell you what sons o man... i tell you what...
cleans you right up fortifies your heart and will clearing your head enhancing you intuitive guidance and rapport with life through the vine and sets you back on the right path, removing obstacles...
viva los changaleros!

^ya I dont buy that mullein toxicity stuff either..I am studying herbalims in school and it's used in so many recipes in my books..real good for the back and such..although it's true that the seeds can be toxic..they are the only parts I know of that are used to paralyise fish..

Back to blends..Bufo is definatily a lost ingrediant for me...I have been doing lots of experiments with bufo...right now being one on them ..and it's soo amazing..the effects are hard to find fully at first but they are there..it's getting more and more visual every time..

Also it saves you DMT. I have not smoked my changa in over a week becasue I like pre-breakthroughs as well..alot..but I bufo is better for this becasue it lasts longer and is soo warm and velvety..makes me feel so loveley and empathic..everything all sparkly, I think I can get more out of a mid-level bufo dose than a mid-level DMT dose..especially when caapi is smoked with it..cebil seeds are soo cheap so I can save my DMT for breakthroughs only..

I only have 1 dose of DMT changa left and some bark is on the way, and my next batches will most likely all have bufo in them..I find that when the 2 are mixed, the experience is VERY visuals and both go farther at lower doses.. so yay for bufo!

I know that alot of people don't get much from bufo and it really amazes me...it's so wonderful..I wish everyone could feel like this.

so your smoking just the caapi leaf with the bufo and getting really good results?

even bufo by itself is awesome and can be real visual amd euphoric, most of my tests havebeen with bufo only to figure it out a bit first.
..but I do like it when a bit of shredded vine is smoked before hand and then it lasts even longer and is more overpowering...only 2 times did i smoke bufo mixed with my DMT and caapi extract changa..and it seriousily blew me away..I could't even make sense of familiar objects or anything, could't read becasue my ego couldnt connect with anything..just a mass of bright colours and geometric grids..that was my second time I mixed it with my DMT changa, and I wasnt expecting to go quite that far..it was weird becasue it was basically a breakthrough, but I could still move around a bit and maybe walk if I needed to, but I was gone for all intensive purposes..everything was unfamiliar and alien and I had ego death for about 10 minutes of the peak..then the come down lasted a few hours..I had put lots of MAOI's into that mix as well..and it was DMT, jungle, and N-oxides so it was real powerful.

SWIM still has not really come up with a decent vilca extract worth writing home about... but swim wonders if smoking the basified and toasted seeds after smoking concentrated caapi leaf incense and then combining it would be really effective... just have to get over the unpleasant side effects in the begining... or take a few shots first swim supposes...

I too have taken note of profound effects from the white sage.

indeed...

Haha, indeed!

Definitely look into combining haramala extracts to fortify your changa. Still figuring out the actually required amounts here. Been working with 1:1 ratio of spice to harmalas, but it is likely more harmala than necessary. Would like to see some tests done with 1:1, 1:0.5, 1:0.25 side by side for comparison. Been using THH primarily, some tests with THH and Harmaline (equal amounts), and some other tests with THH, Harmaline, and Harmine (equal amounts, although there are conflicting reports as to the viable smokability of Harmine). Can't nail down a qualitative difference at this point between harmala combinations, but the THH preps seem more wholesome.

swim would be very interested in qualitative data on varying harmalas in smokable form tried in conjunction with spice... fuh shu...

The spirit of changuar is really strong so my friend gato decided to do some more .
This time he prepared an infusion of caapi leaf and bark (7g) and he used acetone as solvent since he didn't have isoprop..alk. or pure ethanol. He let the caapi sit in the acetone for almost a week in his freezer (in a closed jar). Taking it out and shaking it everyday and then putting it in the freezer again.

When it was time he made a mix of salvia x7, damiana, caapi leaf and some white sage(weight of herbmix 0.9g). He poured the acetone from the caapi infusion out on a pyrex glas, throwed in the herb and 0.5g of spice. He tells me that his changuar is almost dry, hopefully this mix will take my friend beyond so gato can meet his jaguar reflection once again hehe

VIVA!

dont forget to share your report!

Well..A report like a trip report would be to difficult to put into words. But my friend did test a small ammount of his changuar, just a picnh he says and yet he can't express in words the experience. It wasn't so much of a visionary state of mind, still he could see colourful circles at a distance. All he have to say is that it was more profound than his earlier reflections inside changuars eyes. The jaguar showed/reminded him that is all sacred. Life and love is sacred indeed he says..protect it!

My friend says that he feels he really must prepare himself if going in deeper, it felt really sacred he told me, a sacred and strong bliss...sinchi medicina..and it seemed to last longer than his 2 earlier changuar mixes.

Is this the spirit of caapi that is enlighten him besides jurema? It must be the infusion och caapi leafs and bark that made it stronger, my friend belives so. That would mean, that longer caapi leaf soak=stronger smoke...?

My friend says that his "new" changuar mix was indeed a new yet very familiar experience..WOW!!

SWIM asks if someone please can explain to him what tha... just happened?
This smokemix is even more mystic than salvia d extract...gato says.

Well, SWIM says..thank you folks for sharing the secrets of alchemy

So long story short, SWIM has done a few xylene STBs.
After getting sick of waiting for the shit to finally dry out and, trying to get ~ equal doses, he's come up with
the following method.

Do your STB with xylene only... Maybe 3-4 pulls.
Evap down to about 1/6-1/10 of a cup of liquid.
This is when the evaps really slow down.

Take zig-zag papers and dunk them completely in this fluid.
Fold papers 4 times, long ways.
Cut paper into "3 hits."

It seems that applying the jungle goo to these papers makes it dry out faster.
Place these papers in front of a fan.
You'll notice they'll eventually turn into a decently hard wax and lose the xylene smell.
Smoke them the same way you would normal DMT.

Play with it a few times, you'll see the advantage.
SWIM gets a fairly consistent dose of jungle this way as opposed to trying to break pieces of jungle wax apart.
Most mimosa sources will have different concentrations so your results may wind up a bit different.
For SWIM, using this method yields "full lunged hits" about half as strong as pure NN.
Don't take that to heart though. Your jungle mixture may (and SHOULD) be 3x or more stronger than his, remember that.
SWIM's source is kinda lacking at the moment......

You might debate whether this is worth the effort or not.
Try it out.
SWIM highly prefers this way vs the jungle gunk he normally has to deal with.

i like the cut of your jib nuke...

"That would mean, that longer caapi leaf soak=stronger smoke...?"
yep thats the case... for certain.
harmalas acording to dennis mckenna when smoked inhibit enzymes the same way they do in the gut but directly in the brain. when you smoke changa the same sort of reaction that happens with ayahausca occurs in the brain and swim thinks a bit more effectively. but its similar pharmakodynamics as it is with ayahuasca... the effects of smoking it with more harmalas is WAY better. the higher the concentration of harmalas in the changa the better.

That's good, because mine is very caapi strong.

yes I like a caapi strong mix as well...caapi is VERY active and wonderful when smoked..so might as well go all out, I like the psychedelic effects of caapi..it's more than just an MAOI..

I have recently noticed the difference in caapi leaf from different strains... well, I was lucky to get some cuttings from a shaman's garden in Ecuador of black ayahuasca, and I collected some leaves also. Smoking one of the leaves leaves a very strong feeling!! Much stronger than the Cielo leaves I got from Maya a few months ago. Maybe it could also be to do with age, but they do say black aya is one of the strongest.

I am very much looking forward to trying some of this leaf with some spice!

With any luck one of my cuttings will sprout soon so I may be able to grow some of the leaves myself

so what is everyone here using to extract the caapi?? I am curious becasue of all this harmala red stuff I keep hearing about that forms when harmalas are exposed to alcohols...I have always soaked my caapi powder in 99%iso to extract it..but maybe that method isn't as effective? I dont have acetone right now, too lazt to buy some and spend time drying it with salts..

Anyway making a new batch of changa right now with bufotenine as admixture..

I using a base of chocolate peppermint leaves, mugwort and white sage..maybe some salvia divinorum..
extracting either 5 or 10 grams powdered cappi(not decided yet) in iso..and adding it to the leaf base along with some harmalas salted out from rue and bufotenine extracted from 30 cebil seeds..

I might make some real light lavander and other flower tinctures as well and add some drops to it..

I love bufo on it's own, so with a bufo and caapi heavy changa along with the thujone dream plants it should be good.

oh..also I have never bothered to freebase my caapi extracts do you guys think it makes it stronger/more psychedelic?

Not actually making an extract on the red caapi. A spagyric of red caapi, and blue waterlily, are being used.

40 drops red caapi and 20 drops blue waterlily were added to approx. 40-50ml spice saturated anhydrous iso(approx. 1g spice in iso). This was evaporated down onto 0.5g mullein/0.5g caapi leaf.

This has not been sampled yet.

how do you know how much harmalas are in the spagyric?