EDIT to avoid confusion These reports are from EROWID Datura TRAIN WRECKS AND DISASTERS
http://www.erowid.org/ex...cks_Trip_Disasters.shtml

I SAID Post your or others bad reports. Most here know my stance on DATURA from my previous post so they would KNOW they were not my reports.

BUT since I have BEEN CALLED OUT and told I WONT EXPOSE YOU FOR LYING if you EDIT YOU POST........

If there are any more issues with my POST. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM me so I can correct them OK

IF anyone thinks I would be DUMB ENOUGH to consume a DOSE of DATURA large enough to cause the effects in these EROWID reports they dont know me well or read my posts.





Post your or others bad reports. I will get it started this one I call.

I was trying to drink out of the toilet A 15 seed dose

"and if one more weird thing happened I was gonna commit suicide." excerpt from report
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=16996

"5 min later I knew I was fucked" delirium nudity injury cops lots of fun
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=17700


ok top that one should be easy to do. I will find a few other good one in the mean time post your own. I am not condemning any thing just discussing the true aspects of this powerful toxic plant.


PEACE
MV

I once had an experience where i was walking through a house that was constantly shapeshifting. Doors and windows changed places all the time and at the same time the house was making aerobatical manouvres through the sky, flying over the city like a jet-plane.
There was a skeleton that was floating around and sometimes dangling on a gallow. It could shrink. This skeleton was a friend of me and i had some conversations with it.
There was also a bird walking around that i tried to catch, because i thought it wanted to eat the electric cables.

There where some sitters around who safed my life that night, because they told me i attempted to walk through the windows and that i started to look for knifes at a certain moment, because i wanted to start cutting things. I don't remember anything of that.

This is all a long time ago. I don't do these kind of reckless things anymore, fortunately.

Smoked Brugmansia flowers and snorted the pollen and saw and talked to "real" people that were not there.

One girl looked like she was the grudge and I figured out they weren't real when she walked through a door... I thought I was just having friends over or something, I kinda forget I was on Brugmansia... then it got BAD, really bad...

When I was in highschool I recall students at a nearby school died from a datura tea they had made. I recall 3 kids were hospitalized from 50 seeds in a tea. I believe 2 died.

thats really unfortunate Madcap, Stupidity kills a lot of people.

The tek guy at this skateshop I used to be sponsored by would tell me all sorts of crazy tripping stories he had..LOTS of crazy acid trips..

But one day he decided to try a datura tea, and he said he had a big party, and all these people came over and they were drinking martinis etc..partied for like 2 days before he realized he was the ONLY ONE THERE!..haha he also said that after he went walking around and was seeing zombies allover the cityand didn;t know what was real and what was imagined(this was later on in the trip I think..the first part he had no idea and just thought it was all real)..he also said he couldnt see properly for a week or so and felt fucked up for a month..

EDIT to avoid confusion These reports are from EROWID Datura TRAIN WRECKS AND DISASTERS
http://www.erowid.org/ex...cks_Trip_Disasters.shtml

I SAID Post your or others bad reports. Most here know my stance on DATURA from my previous post so they would KNOW they were not my reports.

BUT since I have BEEN CALLED OUT and told I WONT EXPOSE YOU FOR LYING if you EDIT YOU POST........

If there are any more issues with my POST. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO PM me so I can correct them OK



PEACE
MV



PS to whom it may concern.
There you go all edited is it ok with you now. It was worded in a way that it could be misinterpreted thanks for pointing that out to me I hope it is easy to understand for you now. If you need more explaining please let me know

DOS you are lucky the plant you consumed 20seeds from was not as potent as it easy could have been been. If it had been a more potent plant or possibly seeds from another pod as potency varies greatly from one part of plant YOU my friend may have been just getting back from JAIL or the HOSPITAL. READ THE REPORTS THEY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.


One poor guy had to sell his fancy car to reimburse his parents for the Hospital bill. What a shame that was

hahahaha
"I am the TERMINATOR"!!! that's great stuff there you found magic venom best laugh in days...

I dunno if I would make it through a full datura experience...I am only interested in them in the dosage of like 1 or 2 seeds for dreaming...really if I want to go that far out I have some extracted salvinorin A...

You're stooping quite low to insult the intelligence of myself, polytrip and others who have done a relatively high dose of Datura. Yes it is pretty damn risky compared to other entheogens. I knew very well from reading bad trip reports before I took 20, so I don't have a need for your links. I was ready for hell but know better than you that it is possible to have a positive experience on Datura. Nightmarish trips that cause loss of sanity are common with entheogens you use, and that risk doesn't stop you does it?

The usage of quotation marks is very fundamental and important in written language. Learn to use them or you are just asking for more miscommunication. Your ego is showing from your response in your edit; best go and kill it again with some Spice. I'm not going to post again on this thread so if it makes you feel any better about yourself insult me more, but when someone attacks me personally I have no choice but to give a piece of my mind. There, you have it.

PEACE

lets let the flame war stop right HERE or ill lock the thread

I actually think that i WAS pretty stupid when i was a teenager.
What i did was nothing less then playing a chemical variation on russian roulette.

20 seeds are nevertheless pretty much within the safe range.

Still, even for 20 seeds a word of caution should be exercised. Growing conditions, different varieties as well different individual factors (body physiology, age, drug interactions) can make 20 seeds too much for some people.

The best advice is to always start low and walk the dosage up.

Did you ever use real low doses for the purpose of dreamwork??I am real interested in datura and especially henbane..but I dont want a trip at all..just potentiated dreams..

One day I would like to try a bit of pilsner(henbane beer)..but again only in a low dose for dreaming.

Yes. Something within the range of 20 seeds will work well for this purpose.
But don't expect too much of it.
The most peculiar effect of small amounts is maybe how well it helps you to remember your dreams.

I wonder what causes these extraordinary dream-enhancing effects.