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LevitatingGod
#1 Posted : 6/23/2017 1:52:43 AM

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*This thread is intended for open-minded discussion over the topics of sound and vibration. In no way is it intended for one to take as the only literally absolute truth, but rather a possibility.*

To begin, I'd like to start with a small bit over the subject Cymatics, or Kymatica. Cymatics is the study of physical effects of sound and vibration. There is evidence of Kymatica throughout nature whether it be the pattern on a tree stump, ripples in sand/water, or even the wing of a bird. It's a very interesting idea that vibrational frequency could be formatting all matter.

"In the beginning was the Word" Holy Bible
"God is a frequency within" Buddhist Teaching
"Golden silence" Nikola Tesla

Ancient sages have explained the impact of musical elements:
Rhythm affects physical states.
Melody affects emotional and mental states.
Harmony lifts consciousness.

We all know everything have a resonant frequency (state in which it originally vibrates) and that everything is comprised of vibration. Vibration is sound, sound is vibration. Why is this relevant to me? I'm glad I asked Pleased. It could be relevant to all of us and especially our bodies because an experiment called "Hidden messages in water". This experiment showed that when 20 people over the course of 12hours observed water freeze in two cups, at separate times, one with the word "Love" written on it and the other with "hate" written, the one with Love froze with what they refer to now as 'Super Symmetry' and the other with "hate" written on it froze with a very 'asymmetric gibberish-like' pattern(see attached video for more detail).
This is very crucial to think about because not only does it potentially suggest our thoughts can directly impact reality, but it also suggests that if we were to be thinking positively, we would literally be formatting our reality and body to be in a positive state.
Our bodies are majority water, think positively.

"If you want the secrets of the universe think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration." -Nikola Tesla

How were the pyramids build? Did Tibetian monks really move stones with trumpets and chants?
Did John Hutchinson actually melt metals with frequencies and reshape them this way? Did he really levitate 60 lb bowling balls into the air?
I would delve very far into my beliefs on sound/vibration but instead I have just attached some links for you to all enjoy. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on sound/vibration and its technological potential.
Lastly, if anyone has any interesting links or "pseudo-scientific" references to interesting findings of vibration/sound, please don't hold back! *THIS THREAD CONTAINS OPINIONS*
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#2 Posted : 6/23/2017 2:42:33 AM

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Yes I believe everything has a frequency... being matter it must. Science.

But let's non fall into pseudo-science like tha Masaru Emoto's water "experiments" that are unreproducible. I challenge you to try and do it for yourself... All you need is a cheapo microscope to prove for yourself it's bollocks.

The pyramids were built with slaves, lots and lots of slaves over a very long time. Not by magic. No magic trumpets ever moved stone blocks, ever.

All that said, what we think and feel (not believe) does manifest with amazing immediacy. We must be ever vigilant to control the energy we put out, people and our environment are sensitive to this. Thumbs up
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#3 Posted : 6/23/2017 3:05:26 AM

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Northerner wrote:
Yes I believe everything has a frequency... being matter it must. Science.

But let's non fall into pseudo-science like tha Masaru Emoto's water "experiments" that are unreproducible. I challenge you to try and do it for yourself... All you need is a cheapo microscope to prove for yourself it's bollocks.

The pyramids were built with slaves, lots and lots of slaves over a very long time. Not by magic. No magic trumpets ever moved stone blocks, ever.

All that said, what we think and feel (not believe) does manifest with amazing immediacy. We must be ever vigilant to control the energy we put out, people and our environment are sensitive to this. Thumbs up

I feel reality to be my imagination.
Your beliefs don't manifest? How do you mean this? If you believe your pills work and you're taking sugar and they somewhat work, that's because of the placebo effect.
As for the pyramids:
So then how did they make perfectly shaped block cuts, similar to that of modern technology? The blocks themselves used weighed more than most cars, too. Are you saying they stacked them upon each block and aligned them in such a beautiful perfectly-geometric 8-sided concave pyramid? The Great Pyramid of Giza has 8 sides, only able to be seen at a particular time, how would this of been done too?
Also, some archeological departments conclude the pyramids were built with advanced technology of sound.
I believe they were built by mind but I also believe that all possibilities are happening Here and Now but lets not go down that road, instead, I will find the link(s) for the particular archeological depearment I'm wanting to reference.
Lastly, I'm not stating anyone here is right or wrong.
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#4 Posted : 6/23/2017 4:16:13 AM

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10's of thousands slaves working for up to 100 years on each built the great pyramids. Many hands make light work... Good architects and a virtually unlimited supply of free labor. This is why we can't reproduce the same results with modern technology. That sort of dedication can't be bought with $'s.

What I say about beliefs not manifesting VS thoughts manifesting is about the emission of energy. Here's an experiment you can try yourself that will show you what I mean. You may think you're a great person, loving, caring considerate. That is a belief. But walk into a crowded room thinking "I hate myself, I hate being here, I hate everyone here" and see how people react to you when they look at you. Now walk out of the the room, clear your energy, start thinking "I love myself, I love being here, I love everyone around me" and walk back in the room. The reaction is remarkably different. Like this we can see that thought are real, but not necessarily beliefs.

I spent a long time pondering audible (and inaudible) frequencies and how they effect the world around us, being heavily involved in music for a large part of my life. After much consideration I found that these things are mostly self generated beliefs and don't hold up to double blind tests.

Not saying I'm right, it's just my experience.
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LevitatingGod
#5 Posted : 6/23/2017 4:34:08 AM

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Northerner wrote:
10's of thousands slaves working for up to 100 years on each built the great pyramids. Many hands make light work... Good architects and a virtually unlimited supply of free labor. This is why we can't reproduce the same results with modern technology. That sort of dedication can't be bought with $'s.

What I say about beliefs not manifesting VS thoughts manifesting is about the emission of energy. Here's an experiment you can try yourself that will show you what I mean. You may think you're a great person, loving, caring considerate. That is a belief. But walk into a crowded room thinking "I hate myself, I hate being here, I hate everyone here" and see how people react to you when they look at you. Now walk out of the the room, clear your energy, start thinking "I love myself, I love being here, I love everyone around me" and walk back in the room. The reaction is remarkably different. Like this we can see that thought are real, but not necessarily beliefs.

I spent a long time pondering audible (and inaudible) frequencies and how they effect the world around us, being heavily involved in music for a large part of my life. After much consideration I found that these things are mostly self generated beliefs and don't hold up to double blind tests.

Not saying I'm right, it's just my experience.

I know exactly what you mean about thoughts seemingly resonating on some sort of plane or something, therefore, making reality go in accordance to them in some fashion or another. It's very interesting stuff
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#6 Posted : 6/23/2017 9:57:59 AM

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LevitatingGod wrote:
...This thread is intended for open-minded discussion over the topics of sound and vibration...
Why this narrowing down declaration, where's the open mind suddenly gone? A sound $ vibration fetish I presume?
Razz

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I've stood on the Aswan unfinished obelisk once, a make of same period by same piramid dudes, it's unfinished because it broke there on the spot:

and wondered about the "scooping" on the surfaces. Not much is told/known about this effect, but I haven't studied the subject really. Any hints are super welcome! It looks as if the rock surfaces are ice cream and some big scoops stroke them to make shapes.



Look at the vertical strokes:

The scoops are way to big and wide for chisel width we know of, the scoop is easily half a meter wide Shocked and seemed to go trough it as cream or butter.
The good thing about the unfinished obelisk is that it shows the technology used, at least the results of it, before any surface finishing is done, so it might trow an eye in the past.

Look how wide they 'strikes' are, like a progression of a method? :


It is hard to fantasize that the scoop marks are all added later in time. Just as hard to fantasize how those scoop marks are made at all. Sound and vibration? Maybe, but it could be something else as well. If someone chooses 'sound and vibration' as a best bet then why? Because matter/all vibrates too in a way? We all know that by now, much too cheap an answer for my liking, get over with a more substantial indicator please, wowoo wont do Pleased
 
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#7 Posted : 6/23/2017 12:09:46 PM

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I want to talk about the initial assertion that "everything" has a resonant frequency. I don't think that's necessarily true.

Define "everything"

An object needs a couple properties to have a resonant frequency. Does a quark have a resonant frequency?

Does my body have a single resonant frequency? I am after all made of different materials whose stiffness changes based on many factors. If that's the case... and every single thing has a resonant frequency, wouldn't I really have many many resonant frequencies? You know... because we also need to talk about scale. Are you factoring in all of the different resonances in every electron in the poop currently in my bowels? Etc.

Then I need to make absolutely sure I know what kind of resonance you are talking about. There are lots of different kinds of resonance. Are you using wave models exclusively? Are we speaking strictly of mechanical resonance? Or are you talking about M-theory or string theory (and if so, which version).

Also: the pyramids were built my very smart monkeys. We do all kinds of cool shit. Remember: back then, ancient man was modern man. Give them some credit. They were smart and they had virtually unlimited free labor. Slaves. You can do some big ass civil works projects if you have lots of slaves. The pyramids are probably no big deal. We could probably recreate them today using ancient stone cutting techniques, tools etc. We would just need the impetus and tens of thousands of slaves... and some engineers. We wouldn't need one single UFO or Tesla's great great great great great great..... grandfather's sonic cutting tools.
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#8 Posted : 6/23/2017 2:23:59 PM

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#9 Posted : 6/23/2017 3:10:46 PM

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Mister_Niles wrote:

I want to talk about the initial assertion that "everything" has a resonant frequency. I don't think that's necessarily true.

Define "everything"

An object needs a couple properties to have a resonant frequency. Does a quark have a resonant frequency?

Does my body have a single resonant frequency? I am after all made of different materials whose stiffness changes based on many factors. If that's the case... and every single thing has a resonant frequency, wouldn't I really have many many resonant frequencies? You know... because we also need to talk about scale. Are you factoring in all of the different resonances in every electron in the poop currently in my bowels? Etc.

Then I need to make absolutely sure I know what kind of resonance you are talking about. There are lots of different kinds of resonance. Are you using wave models exclusively? Are we speaking strictly of mechanical resonance? Or are you talking about M-theory or string theory (and if so, which version).

Also: the pyramids were built my very smart monkeys. We do all kinds of cool shit. Remember: back then, ancient man was modern man. Give them some credit. They were smart and they had virtually unlimited free labor. Slaves. You can do some big ass civil works projects if you have lots of slaves. The pyramids are probably no big deal. We could probably recreate them today using ancient stone cutting techniques, tools etc. We would just need the impetus and tens of thousands of slaves... and some engineers. We wouldn't need one single UFO or Tesla's great great great great great great..... grandfather's sonic cutting tools.

Some are saying some things have multiple resonant frequencies and some say things like, "No. If there’s a compound object with multiple components exerting different frequencies that are partially resonant, then this particular resonant frequency will eventually dominate the oscillation, producing a net standing wave and cancelling a frequency that deviates from it. A singular object naturally cannot produce several wavelengths at once."
So I will leave it for debate

I would love it if you gave me your thoughts on string theory sometime as I just had a talk with my brother about it and it was much fun Smile
"Tesla's great grandfathers sonic cutting tools" lol! I love that.
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#10 Posted : 6/23/2017 3:16:25 PM

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endlessness wrote:
https://phys.org/news/2014-04-ancient-egyptians-pyramid-stones-sand.html

This is relevant to the thread Smile

That's so interesting and I gotta say, I love how it's correlated with that hieroglyph because it really does seem a bit like that's what's going on in the hieroglyph.
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#11 Posted : 6/23/2017 3:19:39 PM

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Jees wrote:
LevitatingGod wrote:
...This thread is intended for open-minded discussion over the topics of sound and vibration...
Why this narrowing down declaration, where's the open mind suddenly gone? A sound $ vibration fetish I presume?
Razz

* * *

I've stood on the Aswan unfinished obelisk once, a make of same period by same piramid dudes, it's unfinished because it broke there on the spot:

and wondered about the "scooping" on the surfaces. Not much is told/known about this effect, but I haven't studied the subject really. Any hints are super welcome! It looks as if the rock surfaces are ice cream and some big scoops stroke them to make shapes.



Look at the vertical strokes:

The scoops are way to big and wide for chisel width we know of, the scoop is easily half a meter wide Shocked and seemed to go trough it as cream or butter.
The good thing about the unfinished obelisk is that it shows the technology used, at least the results of it, before any surface finishing is done, so it might trow an eye in the past.

Look how wide they 'strikes' are, like a progression of a method? :


It is hard to fantasize that the scoop marks are all added later in time. Just as hard to fantasize how those scoop marks are made at all. Sound and vibration? Maybe, but it could be something else as well. If someone chooses 'sound and vibration' as a best bet then why? Because matter/all vibrates too in a way? We all know that by now, much too cheap an answer for my liking, get over with a more substantial indicator please, wowoo wont do Pleased

Very intriguing.
I do think it could be the work of sound technology that was used to form the stone(s) but that is completely debatable obviously. It's just a perplexing time in history, ancient Egypt.
You've stood on that? That's glorious... I would LOVE to see the area.
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#12 Posted : 6/23/2017 3:38:06 PM

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how do you think sound tech can make the blocks? im presuming you dont just yodel at a pile of sand and it forms blocks.

what is it you think they did, what do you think their process was?
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#13 Posted : 6/23/2017 3:57:03 PM

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3rdI wrote:
how do you think sound tech can make the blocks? im presuming you dont just yodel at a pile of sand and it forms blocks.

what is it you think they did, what do you think their process was?

I wish the yodeling at sand worked lmao. You'd have to have quite the voice, lol.

I feel it could make blocks similar to the way john Hutchinson melted and re shaped metals.
JohnHutchinson had practiced the use of electromagnetic waves and frequencies to levitate and alter matter.
I'll link a 15sec clip.
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#14 Posted : 6/23/2017 5:01:51 PM

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OK, lets imagine John Hutchinson was telling the truth, how would the egyptians have generated the electromagnetic waves?
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#15 Posted : 6/23/2017 7:28:01 PM

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3rdI wrote:
OK, lets imagine John Hutchinson was telling the truth, how would the egyptians have generated the electromagnetic waves?


He supposedly had people account for it in person and also recorded his experiments, also he supposedly had a deal with China to manufacture zero point batteries after the U.S. denied him. I do believe he had some issue with making it proportional for a bigger version or something like that and that's why "it didn't take off in China". Also "police raided his place and took all his stuff" can be found when researching his experiments. That seems a bit fishy to me. I am not saying that this all makes it true, but rather, just adds a bit of credibility in some sense or another.
As well, I'm not sure or claiming to be sure that the pyramids were were built by sound technologies. I am just imaginative and would like to know everyone's thoughts.

I do enjoy entertaining the idea that they were build by Mind(the transmuted emerald tablets of Thoth is an interesting topic to research). The idea of a particular state of mind being the orchestrator of all matter makes me wiggle. Big grin

As for the setting required for that technology to create something the size of the pyramids, it's easily doubtable, but still doesn't make it impossible to be done.
I would figure it would require an extremely precise way of creating a sufficiently controlled setting for something the size of the pyramids blocks or heck, even the pyramid itself.. It's just so large I am curious to how we could ever create the setting needed for that technology to create something of such a size. I know there are lots of ideas on how the pyramids were constructed, though.
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3rdI wrote:
OK, lets imagine John Hutchinson was telling the truth, how would the egyptians have generated the electromagnetic waves?

His name is John Hutchison and he can't even replicate his own experiments. I'm amazed nobody mentioned Edward Leedskalnin's "Coral Castle" yet. I certainly hope nobody will seriously bring up the likes of Mehran Keshe (*shudder*).

I'm generally not the one to post youtube vids (I loathe the threads full of embeds slowing down older puters to a crawl), but since the topic is about sound, vibration and pyramids, I just couldn't resist adding this gem. I find it highly psychedelic. I like to imagine that ancient aliens played it on their ufo stereo all the time.

 
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#17 Posted : 6/23/2017 9:47:48 PM

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LevitatingGod wrote:
...I do think it could be the work of sound technology that was used to form the stone(s) but that is completely debatable obviously...You've stood on that? That's glorious... I would LOVE to see the area.
Since seeing the quarries, they just cut out the stones (and the obelisks) out of existing rock. I do not believe they made the stones with technology of sorts. There is a kind of consensus (according to the guide) that the stones were excavated and transported from quarries to the pyramid area or any temple or whatever. Long distances but hey those standing stones of England have a same pattern there of being excavated + transported.

If they had tech to resonate stone formation together, they should have used the same tech to make obelisks, me thinks. But the unfinished obelisk proves it's excavated in quarry, period. If it wasn't broken, we never had this clue now so very clear.

This does not take away the imaginable tech they used to excavate + transport. A 1000 slaves excavating the obelisk with classic hammer & chisels would not have lead to those marks in the pictures I presume.

Standing on that obelisk was not a holy experience to me, just a big stone. In Giza I was in the main pyramid center chamber alone (+ partner) for like 10 minutes in complete silence. I opened myself for whatever coming, very honestly, but nothing special to brag about. Luckily I was not expecting something extra ordinary. Well maybe I was not worthy Big grin or it worked outside my field of perception. I still can't levitate, what a bummer after such an effort Laughing
 
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You did drink the glass of mercury before entering, did you?
Oh ehh, no, darn Neutral
 
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Those obelisk marks look like drill marks to me. Big bronze cutting heads perhaps? Replaced repeatedly when dulled. I'd say the drilling tool would have been very heavy using the weight of it to penetrate the stone. Perhaps they drilled to a particular depth and then using a cruder, less precise chisel on the non-obelisk side of the channel to cut away a nice trough. Then continuing with the drill to cut more depth.
What if the shaft of the drill was struck rhythmically by a team of slaves to create some vibration in the head while another team worked it around and around?
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