But those instances are your beliefs altering your reality. Life is a mirror that reflects our thoughts back at us. YOu you think the world is unfair, then that is what you will experience. If you think the world is full of abundance, then that is what you will experience. Love, fear it all works the same. It may not show itself in the way you think it will, for instance abundance does not mean winning the lottery, it can mean having what you need when you need it. Most people misunderstand this concept such that they think of something they want and expect it to materialize instantly. That is not how it works, and is only a very superficial understanding and expression of the reality. If your attitude is truly changed, at the core of your being you know what you want and how to manifest it, it will be provided for you.

Thinking you want something and getting it, then realizing it was not what you wanted is this paradigm working. It is showing you that it is not truly what you want or need, and you are learning from that experience. Dig down deep, keep trying to find that which brings you joy, completion to your existence, that which will bring you further down the path of enlightenment...when those things begin to manifest for you, will will not doubt the reality of this paradigm.

This is basically what I stated above. It is not the needs of the ego that one can manifest, as those are not true to your being. You must find questions and learning opportunities of the inner self to see real change in the world which you experience.

I guess I don't consider links to conspiracy theory websites as proof.
The internet is full of shit, you can't trust him...


I'm not saying I don't look at the world & see that things are severely fucked up...that much is clear!!

But to say that it is all some big master plan, is just as much horseshit!!

Greed...simple greed is the big conspiracy.

Weather it's some big plan or not, I just don't know about that.
But just because someone has made, or is born with a whole ton of money, doesn't make them any more smart than you or me.


WS

Amen to that brother

I found this short youtube segment that offers an explanation as to how the secret works...quite interesting actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfkLnJ0U9TQ

This is all and well and fine, and I think it is one of the core insights of all spiritual work. But it is a psychological insight and not a metaphysical one. All this quantum mysticism stuff is a distraction.

A distraction from what?

a distraction from relevance.

And what would that relevance be?

exactly how it sounds...relevance

good luck showing evidence for a connection. it's even more far-fetched than tying dmt to dreaming.
I remember reading something of the sort on deoxy, circa 1997...
let's just say that ghost hunters have more evidence than quantum metaphysics theorists.


there's certainly no shortage of new-age psychobabble on the web

Relevance is a term used to describe how pertinent, connected, or applicable something is to a given matter.

Again, I ask you what the matter is to which you are refering? This discussion is a distraction from or not pertinent, connected, or applicable to what, pray tell?

lets just say none of you can prove if quantum metaphysics is possible or not possible...

but why are you guys talking about relevance...relevance is not relevant to quantum communication

personally i BELIEVE that it is possible..but i do not know for sure..but MY experience has shown me that everything is possible...but nothing is certain

and what have some of the greatest minds in history said about this strange place we find ourselves in...that anything is possible..

even things we may not have thought of yet!

the mind communicates based on changes in membrane potential (electrochemical) signals are sent across poor conductors (axons), and synapses process chemicals not photons (how's that for relevance?). to reach a neural level of quantum computing isn't physically practical nor probable, excitotoxicity (which would eventually result in neuron death) would likely prevent it.

if quantum communication is possible, it's also possible to teleport.
not very probable though

No-where at no-time have I ever said I can prove any of these ideas. My point in asking about relevance (which benzyme deftly avoided) is that it implies a knowledge of how the univese actually works. Which no one can lay claim to. There is evidence for these types of things, whether you choose to acknowledge or believe the findings or not.

Benzyme, did you even watch the video posted? Because you seem to be coming from a perspective that is irrelevant to the topic of discussion.

How do you explain memory?
How do you explain telepathy? Astral Travel/OBE? Premonitions?

I did, what I saw was a bunch of speculation.
acetylcholine signaling

those are good ones, still related to neurosignaling/theta brainwaves


p.s. - psychology isn't even a proper science; too much psychobabble and ambiguities.
nice for philosophical discussions, but not so great for experimental testing

You are right, it was a teaser, I imagine one would have to watch the whole thing to determine if there is any credible evidence.



Interesting, as from everything I've read, and also talking to a Phd. neurobiologist who has been working in the field for at least ten years, they have only the most rudimentary idea what memory is...

memory is decidedly ACh-related, nothing rudimentary about it
alzheimers patients have significant loss of function in those receptors

dreams, which I call indexed (sometimes modified) memories, are manifestations of ACh signaling.

Describing colors to the blind...


WS

A distraction from the real work of changing the way your mind works and the way you engage with the world, i.e. from the spiritual practice itself. The point being that when you stumble into the chapel perilous of "belief defines reality" you have seized on an important psychodynamic insight that can be applied in daily life and experimented with. But to try and turn this psychodynamic insight into a bloated metaphysical theory that offends contemporary scientific knowledge steers you away from the practice and into armchair philosophizing.

In practice, you may discover that gradual changes in your worldview or experiments with altered states of consciousness changes the way that people relate to you, the way and the frequency with which opportunities present themselves, and your rate of success in life in general. You may discover the freedom to do things and to think things that had never before entered into your consciousness at all. But in the armchair you may delude yourself that you can defy the laws of physics, read thoughts and work miracles, which is total nonsense.

But it's also a distraction from those parallels between contemporary brain science and the mystical experience that actually hold water, for instance the fact that the mind/brain actually consists of a coalition of domain-specific modules and lacks anything like a central cognizing subject or "self" in the way we're accustomed to believe.

Heh, no doubt. I guess its good that one person in 100 million can undestand the apparent mechanics of these phenomena.




Does not changing the mind have to begin somewhere? Are not these types of ideas such that they will encourage others to explore their own existence and spirituality? Since when is understanding a bad thing? One can take this insight and explore the world around one with new idea, with new insight and experiment with the knowledge gained. Isn't understanding our true nature and the reality of our lives not a metaphysical pursuit at its core? If one person is encouraged to become awake and aware of the most inportant questions facing someone living in this world, is that not enough?

What contemporary scientific knowledge is being offended? The science which doesn't exist yet? That which science (materialists) refuses to accept or even contemplate? How does one offend someone who closes their eyes, covers their ears and shouts at the top of their lungs that they are the truth and wisdom so loudly that they drown out every other voice? How do paradigms shift (and they always do) without someone to "philosophize" about new possibilities to explain that which we experience?

In practice, changes in one's worldview does change the way other people relate to you, does change the frequency with which opportunities present themselves, and does change your "success" in the game of life. It does provide enormous amount of freedom to do and experience things both dreamed of, and not yet concieved. But that is in practice, not sitting on the couch expeecting these things to be served to you upon a silver platter. That is the whole point, which I made earlier. One has to be an active participant in change. What are miracles? They are changes in our world for which we do not yet have an explanaion. Miracles happen all the time. You have never read someone else's thoughts? Never picked up the phone to call someone, only to find out they are already on the line? Never had an A HA moment, when you and a close friend have come to the same idea/conclusion at the extact same moment? Maybe you cannot intentionally read anothers mind, but you can read minds, you just haven't been aware.

Contemporary science that is inaccessable to 99.99999% of the people who live on the planet? Understandings that do nothing to explain the core of the mystical experience to practically anyone who has had one? One can talk about mechanics all they want, subdivide life and experience as many times as they can, chop it into smaller and smaller bits, but it provides no MEANING to life, no MEANING to the experience. And it never will.

So the brain lacks a cohesive cognitive structure to define the self? So there is no self (as we currently believe)? No I? So what does this show us about mystical experience, particularly those of Oneness? What does it say about consciousness? I am curious as to how this realization of science about brain mechanics enhances the understanding or meaning of existence.