Sometime soon Im planning on taking a pharmahuasca journey. Ill be getting a weekend home alone to myself and i was going to take 200mg harmaline extract and 70mg fb spice. Since im going it alone ive got a couple concerns. First off will i be able to do basic functions. Get a drink ,go to the bathroom ,smoke a bowl or a joint without burning down the house? In the event of Purging is making it to the toilet just wishful thinking and should i keep a bucket handy? How capable will it be to communicate with the real world if need be? I dont plan on interacting with anyone but just incase someone susprises me and drops by unannounced. Roughly how long will the journey last? Does it have a peak like LSD? Will i be able to sleep afterwards ? With so many psychedelics its hard for me to sleep for hours and hours after the effects have worn off. And last but most important how long before and after should I watch my diet for MAOI food interactions.

Thanks for any help..and if anyone has some suggestions or tips id love to hear them.

I would not take 200 mg of harmaline, it's very taxing on the body.
I'd think of 50 mg harmaline fb as a condiment on top of 200 harmine fb.
In rue it's often 50% harmine 50 % harmaline, and there the harmaline gets a real front stage.
The clean-ness of harmine is in deep contrast to the body-stoned-ness of harmaline. Yet for a duration enhancer harmaline does nice a job.
200 Harmaline fb solo, not enjoyable I think. If it has to share places with other harmala components it is a bit in competition and thus moderated, but on it's very own it really will hack the body above nice levels. Things are personal though, sensitivity levels differ.
Btw how do you know it's harmaline, and how pure is it? Freebase or hcl?

If you have good maoi then 70 mg light puts me on the lounge under a blanket and being in my world for a while, not interacting. A good session with plenty of work to do, yet not like the heavy sessions that 100 does.
Can never go to sleep soon after.

Maoi diet = strictly personal, only a minority has real problems.
But it's not just avoiding headaches or other 'real' trouble, there's more. One gets a smoother & easier experience with lesser tyramines imho.

Thanks for your input. The harmalas are in fb form from a rue extraction i did. Ive only smoked them before vaping DMT and they worked really well. I was planning on taking the maoi dose this weekend to see how it effects me on its own. So your suggesting a lower dose like maybe 150mg or 125mg. Ill probably take two 75mg doses aprox 20mins apart this weekend and see what happens.(this weekends only the maoi practice run the real voyage will be memorial day weekend ) The 70mg experience you describe sounds about what im looking for.. i dont get the freedom to do this very often so i hoping things go off without a hitch. As i dont really have the availability for trial and error here.. thanks for your help this infomation is very helpful.. my only concern now is the purge. Im not worried or afraid to throw up i just dont want my wife coming home to find me bed ridden surrounded by buckets of vomit. she may not be so understanding so at the very least i need to alot some clean up time before she gets home. Im expecting to be incapacitated for 3 to 4 hours.

I would not like to have a feeling "Oh dear she can come home any minute".
It would be a stressing factor.

Anyway, about your harmalas, first you said it is harmaline, in the second post you say it is rue extract you did. I am unclear now if it's a complete rue extract which is usually 50% harmine 50% harmaline, or did you perform a separation between the harmine and harmaline?

If there was no separation act (I suppose you did not separate the components), then the 200 mg FB is quite effective (for me) and not too overly much which is good in your case (avoiding purge and not too long a period working time).

To avoid purge, best on empty stomach and eat few spoons of oat porridge with honey just before the pharmahuasca, it greases the track and avoids a purge. I make it with oat milk.

You simply cant guarantee no-purge. One day against the other differs hugely.
If it comes quick, you lose dose and depth.
If it comes after 2 hours in, you have past the peak and purge will not compromise depth anymore. Sometimes there is no purge at all.
Good trials

Yeah sorry my auto correct must of changed harmalas to harmaline and i didnt catch it.. i followed the manske teks and extracted from syrian rue.with no seperatation of harmaline and harmine. The end result is a light brown/tan fine powder. I shouldnt be interrupted until the next day so no susprise vists from the wife that night.. and ill deal with the purge if it happens. I just dont want it to come.on all of.a sudden with out warning but it doesnt sound like thats usually an issue.

Then your initial idea of 200 mg harmalas + 70 mg of light is a good idea.


I've a no go zone around 40 - 50 mg of light. It gives so much of the body load without a proper pay off. From 60 and above a new sort of bodily anesthesia sets in making it more smooth again. I do love the 20 to 30 though for non deep works and they don't create too much of a body load. Just that 40 - 50 range is something that isn't low or high it's nothing of the two I'm sure others have deviating ideas but can only say mine. But 70 is definitely working time, while not hitting hyperspace of course.

I hope you keep it in till it works. A late purge is never a bad idea actually, the components have done their works by then.

Interesting to hear about your experience!

I have 1 gram of harmine/harmaline freebase extract (from syrian rue). Not even sure what I'm going to do with it yet but it seemed like a good thing to have in my arsenal. Idea's are Pharmahuasca, smoking it prior to smoking spice, smoking it while on 4-aco-dmt/mushrooms and trying it out on its own once.

[quote=Mr Machine]Interesting to hear about your experience!

I'll definitely post my results once i try it.

I really like smoking my fb rue extract before spice. The last trip left me.feeling like i was starring at the sun. It was so bright and colorful

Funny. My good buddy always has some sort of "starring at the sun" experience on his breakthroughs. I've never had that.

Well plans have changed and now im going on a camping trip next weekend. So my journey will be postponed.. i was thinking about still taking my dose once we get camp set up especially since now ill have a sitter. But my friend isnt experienced with psychedelics and i dont want to put that kinda burden on them. Plus im also worried about having a problem and being stuck out in the middle of nowwhere..
But thanks for all the help and info its going to be put to good use eventually