Hello people of the nexus. Sorry for the weak first post but I'm in need of some help here. I'm usually a lurker and made this account mainly to ask this question but I do plan on engaugeing more in the community now that I'm finally making an account. So here's my problem.

I'm attempting this extraction tek: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=30501 . It's the newer tek involving simple house hold supplies like ethanol, vinegar, and Sodium carbonate. Well I've been looking everywhere and I can't find an answer to my question for the life of me. I started with p/p mimosa hostillis root bark from a reputable vendor and followed through with half the tek. The only thing I mistook was the ethanol. I used 99% ISO alcohol instead by mistake. I'm not sure that this is really the problem, but maybe you all can shed some light on the matter. For some reason or another, my ISO alc came back green after the first pull...not sure what this could mean. Started with purple bark, and clear 99% ISO. The Sodium Carbonate was untainted 100% pure (according to the label). What do you guys think. There should be no chlorophyll in the root bark so I don't think this is it.

I would really appreciate your insight! I've done a few A/B extractions so this isn't my first run. I just don't know what to make of this. Maybe it's nothing and I'm worried for no reason. I'll wait to continue the extraction until I hear what you all have to say. Thank you very much for this great resource by the way. This website has been a lifesaver for years.


Update:

Well after searching the net for the past few hours I've found two links. These are them:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...mobile_posts&t=5690

http://www.sciencelearni...-matrix-of-acids-bases/

Not much to go on but it's a start. After reading those I decided I could rule out the solvent as the issue because I know it isn't contaminated. And the OP in that post seems to think it was because he added too much Sodium Carb in the mix. With that in mind I did some scanning on the net and found an unrelated children's chemistry experiment involving a purple cabbage solution and acids/bases causing color changes in the solution.

Now i know this is a stretch, but it's all I could find at this point. So I took about 100ml of the green ISO alc and evaporated the alcohol to leave behind a dnt smelling green residue that is not at all waxy (easily scraped up to powder). I then dissolved that in 50ml dH2O and proceeded to measure out 10ml 5% acetic acid solution (vinegar). I then began to self as the vinegar to the solution. After about 5ml into titration the solution began to turn dark red!?

So what's going on here?? Was it really just a matter of PH? Does purple cabbage get it's color from similar compounds to the components of purple mimosa? Is the excess sodium carbonate neutralized or is it still contaminating the solution? If so how do I purify my product?

This is all very interesting for me and I hope that anyone else who may end up in this situation can gain from this experience so the don't end up with the same questions. Thanks again for the help, hope someone has some insight.

Update 2:

I've decided to evaporate the three ISO pulls. Also, I'm doing three vinegar pulls and might use them for a regular A/B extraction if for some reason the alcohol doesn't contain the DMT. I'm hoping I can clean any excess sodium carbonate in the ISO pulls with acetone, since it is not soluble in acetone, and the DMT freebase produced by adding sodium carbonate should be soluble in the acetone.

The vinegar pulls are a dark brown red earth color that is common with the q21q21 d-limonene tek. Maybe I can just evaporate the vinegar to a easier handled quantity, raise the pH with some CaOH2 pickling lime, and pull with naptha? Hope I can get some advice here on any of this. Thanks again guys.

Cheers

Hmm I don't have an answer to your question but want to contribute that I did also endlessness eco-friendly tek with 99% IPA, but used lime instead of sodium carbonate as a base.

Worked like a charm. The first IPA evap product had to be dissolved and evapped one more time with 99% IPA due to small lime contamination - yielded a very potent brown goo.

Thanks for the input Levanah! Was the ISO solution green for you before you evaporated it down? How active was your final product in terms of mg? Thanksgiving for your input!


I think it was the Na2CO3 that caused mine to be green. I added a little vinegar and it's almost completely evaporated now (took all day not much left to go). It's fine a dark red brown color now and smells strongly of DMT. I'll probably use some extra d-limo and fumeric acid to make some fumerate with it (after dissolving it I'm vinegar). I'm just not comfortable with the possible level of Na2CO3 contamination to leave it in a jimjam state.

Maybe something like this:

- dissolve resin in 300ml hot vinegar (if all won't dissolve reframe volumes up and proceed in mason jar)
- Mix separate solution of 40g Na2CO3 in 100ml distilled water
- Add Na2CO3 to resinous solution
- Add d-limo in increments of 60ml, inverting 20 times per increment , and letting fully settle before separation.
- Collect d-limo in separate flask
- Mix solution of FA saturated water in the amount of 1500mg FA to 150ml distilled water (or whatever I can get to dissolve
- Add the FASdW to the d limo in increments of 25ml per pull. Invert slowly 20 times.
- Separate the FASdW (now containing the DMT fumerate) from the d-limo and save in a separate clean flask.
- After 3 pulls, discard everything but the fumerate solution.
- Next, take a funnel and stuff a cotton ball in the limb (not tooo tight or else it will clog, but too loose and it will not filter well). Filter the fumerate solution through this cotton ball to remove excess undissolved fumerate.
- Discard excess fumerate caught in funnel.
- Pour the now filtered solution onto a glass drying dish and fan dry. What should be left behind is DMT fumerate.
- Follow the "Fumerates to Freebase Conversion TEK" in the wiki

I'll keep this post updates for the hell of it. Still curious about the green. Thanks again guys.

Best

Yes

anthocyanins give the purple colour, and they act as pH indicators

I think it was rather yellow. I couldn't distinguish the full spectrum freebase oil from white dmt-crystals. I think it was >90% DMT.

Hey thanks for your reply guys. I guess I ought to follow up just in case someone else finds themselves in the same predicament and needs assistance. I ended up evaporating all the alcohol, dissolving the resin in vinegar, basifying with sodium carbonate, and pulling with d-limonene. From there I salted the d-limo with vinegar and converted it to pure white freebase using this tek: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=11531 ....turned out nice an pure! A little over 4g from a lb. Thanks again.

Cheers

Well done for the clean up! Got any pics?