I think that both nn-dmt and 5-meo-dmt can be used for healing reasons. For me the medium dose works best for that kind of work and I would prefer sublingual (or nasal) ROA over smoking here. No breakthrough-hyperspace-sensation is needed for tryptamin-healing-work imho. In my experience the middle-dose zone is actually the best for dealing with "impurities"/blockages/emotions/fears and so on. I like to become stable and cleansed in the lower zones first before I leap over into the hyperspace.

I would start with a low dose and slowly dose up until the confrontations begin

In my personal experience with the molecule, it most perfectly fits what you are seeking to accomplish with it. I had no real specific intent with it when I was initiated into it, but a real energetic purge was absolutely part of it.

This occured during the come down phase of a complete death experience, which had all the hallmarks of true NDEs. Upon returning to body, I began to feel nauseous, but instead of vomiting anything physical, I witnessed a giant black boa emerge from my mouth and dissolve into curls of black fractal smoke. It terrified me and in my fear I ignorantly and foolishly cut the purge short. It was a powerful hallucination, more real than real and that incomplete purge several years ago, which precipitated my joining this community in search of answers and which ive written over-long essays about, still informs me.

5meo is no joke, a high dose will shatter you. You must be strong in your knowledge, intent and will to put yourself back together. Thats my personal experience anyway, your mileage may vary.

Intent is a tricky one with this molecule. In my experience (and everyone's going to be different, especially in trying to describe these things,) 5-MeO-DMT completely steamrolls motives, intentions, and any "psychedelic fortitude" the user brings to the table. It opens a person up without permission or foreplay - sometimes for the better sometimes for the worse.

Strong medicine indeed.

I meant intent in a general sense, as in what one wants to get out of thier experimentation, rather than some question brought into an experience. Because yes, you are correct.

I just had my first breakthrough on YOPO seeds + a pile of NN-DMT at the peak like 2 days ago.
I have long suffered with anxiety, depression, and bi-polar.
For the past 3 years, I have tried to purge up negative energies by using medicines like Formosahuasca (Syrian Rue + Acacia Confusa), DMT, LSD, San Pedro, 2C-B, MDMA, Mescaline, Psilocybin, etc...
I have never thrown up from any of these despite feeling an overwhelming need to and even forcing my fingers down my throat, only to choke on gags.
The energy kept getting stuck in my face, throat, and I couldn't fully breathe into my Solar Plexus.
I tried using purgatives like drinking salt-water and drinking Tobacco tea, Lobelia Inflata, and many other crazy desperate methods.
For so long I have been seeking a purge...
It feels like a hand gripping my throat and so much pressure in my chest. My back is also affected.

I went to get the results of my blood-work to see what has been wrong with me for so long. Desperately seeking answers...
Low Vitamin-D, and increasing levels of Mono-antibodies despite having it for multiple years...
I began to feel incredible painful sharp stabbing sensations in my stomach while at the doctors and held back gags until I got home.
I was kneeling at the toilet as usual, shoving my fingers down my throat trying to purge.
Dry-heaves, but no vomit. (as usual)
This is it, this is the day I go all the way...
I go up to my room and break out my tools.
My homemade Kuripe (personal snuff-applicator), white sage, and some Yopo Snuff (About 0.5g YOPO + Calcium Hydroxide in a 5:1 Yopo : lime ratio)
I say my prayers and I cleanse my sinuses with some Singado (Liquid Mapacho + Lime)
I'm shaking, I'm so nervous. The nicotine is constricting my blood vessels. My hands are cold as ice. I feel crisp and buzzed from the Singado
I load up the Kuripe with a good amount of Yopo.
I insert it into my nostril and blow forcefully, this propels the Yopo deep into my sinuses.
An incredible burn wraps around my head and I struggle to breathe.
After catching my breath, I wait for 5 minutes to see what effect this has.
I feel something mild creeping up, like 5 mg of vaped DMT on some Ayahuasca leaf...
The room changes so suddelly..
I get the courage to take another bump.
Poof, more pain.
It steadily builds. Nausea building too.
My whole body is now becoming very sore from the medicines...
Now the room is looking like it does on 10 mg DMT... it's right on the threshold of being a trip.
I see that there is a massive amount of YOPO left.
I courageously load it up and force it up my sinuses in one large breath.
BAM. I felt the impact wrap around my head.
I pray for a purge, I pray for healing.
My bucket is set out infront of me.
I lay back on my bed.
Sore body and shifting OEV's.
Behind closed-eyes, I see snake-like, colored energy waves forming an interlocking earthy pattern.
It feels intelligent, but non-verbal.
It is an entity of sorts, an intelligence more like...
I am gradually becoming more engulfed in this intelligence and I start breathing quickly to stay cool.
I begin to feel numbness in my hands, chest and face. The vision becomes static-y...
I am worried about the vasoconstriction. I panic and start breathing faster, trying to catch some O2...
The numb-ness only grows worse...
Eventually I am overcome with nausea.
I welcome a purge.
I become posessed by energy that causes me to sit straight up.
My entire body orgasms from toe up to head and I vomit!!!
It was so forceful and orgasmic.
I had no control over it.
It was like a full body sneeze.
Like vomiting/sneezing from the tips of my toes out my mouth.
After a few good long-overdue "vorgasms"
I lay back in relief and absolute gratitude for the medicine.
It worked, I feel such a weight lifted!
I feel like I just literally orgasmed and now I am in the after-glow.
Then my CEV's grew more complex and detailed.
I saw entities above me.
They gave me advice on what to do in life.
They gave me a gift which I recieved into my torso.
They told me to take the rest of my DMT in one go.
I did, but that is a whole seperate & irrelevant journey...
Maybe it isn't...
I took what must be atleast 50+mg of DMT and put it on top of some Lobelia in a pipe.
I melted it down with my lighter and covered it with lobelia.
I knew I was in for something incredible...I took a deep breath, then exhaled.
I lit the herb and it all turned into a huge glowing ember.
My lungs filled with a massive amount of thick smoke.
I held it in as long as I could.
Blackout.
I was whizzing through infinite intelligent fractals, patterns, entities.
This sensation kept growing more and more intense and it felt like the universe was collapsing in on itself.
Like I was in the center of a black hole.
Then I popped out.
I'm now in a parallel universe.
The universe where absolutely everything goes terribly wrong.
Hell-On-Earth. A bloody dark red hellish nightmare.
Absolutely pure utter horror, despair, pain, and suffering filled everything I could perceive.
I was in a hell-ish version of my room.
Humanity is doomed, we screwed up too much.
My dead friend is here along with many demons surrounding me and repeating the phrase "Hell Froze Over!"
A man is about to break in my window and assassinate me with a knife.
My dad is dying beneath me.
Everything imaginable is going as wrong as possible.
Absolute hell.
And then my father dies.
I lay in my bed and feel his spirit leave this hellish realm.
I feel a heavy negativity and fear lift from me and I feel free. Free of all fears.
I just died, I have nothing to fear.
I lay here in my bed thinking of how the whole world just broke through into hell and then into heaven.
All there is to say and do.
Truth and love to be spread.
My family will find my father's corpse and cry, but I will understand that he is free from the suffering he has dealt with for so long.
I then feel a heavy sense of responsibility wash over me.
I feel pride and power.
I survived. I broke-through. I died. I lived. I'm here to love and speak...
I go downstairs and proclaim to my family that I just healed myself with jungle medicine "YOPO".
They aren't very understanding.
Back to reality.
Time to integrate and bring the future back to the present...
Here I am.
That's going to be compiled into a Trip Report soon ^

But yeah, Yopo contains 5-MeO-DMT...
I HIGHLY recommend Yopo for purging and cleansing.
Start by using some tobacco snuff (Preferrably Rustica + Lime) to get used to the sensation of burning pain and possible nausea.
Then just go for it. It's the only thing that helped me in my life.
I'm not going to sugarcoat it and say it's pleasant...
It's very rough on your body, but it is so rewarding and so worth it.
It was the most intense healing experience of my life.
I'm ordering more now and I'm going to go back on the Full Moon.
You gotta go through hell to get to heaven <3

hi I have been interested in this molecule for the same reason as well, for healing/cleansing/purging and spiritual enlightenment. But I don't want to disturb a creature just to receive the molecule. I wonder if there is any other way to receive 5-meo-dmt, without being a chemist? Are there plants that one could extract from? Like for example could one extract it from yopo seeds by pulverizing the seeds and then mixing with pickling lime aka calcium hydroxide and soaking it in alcohol for a few hours and shaking periodically, then filtering and evaporating the liquid?

I recently came across an advocate of 5-MeO-DMT implying in an internet video that it’s a magic-bullet for permanent enlightenment. I personally think it was irresponsible and uncompassionate of them to suggest this.

I appreciate the healing potential of entheogens and their place in the scheme of things, but to claim that ‘liberation’ can be the permanent result of repeating a psychedelic experience is (in my opinion) fundamentally an incorrect view. Salvation/liberation/enlightenment etc, is traditionally taught to be the realization of one’s eternal/spiritual nature, which if eternal must already be here now - not the result of anything.

If you feel a mental blockage, there are other less forceful ways of viewing it that may help, such as the Heart-felt recognition that as awareness you can’t be blocked by anything at anytime, as whatever appears in your awareness - you are aware of it. If you’re in physical pain then maybe you can look into other forms of medicinal practice if your current doctor hasn’t helped.

I hope you find your peace Entr0py.

What kind of loop exactly?