So a posted a thread a while ago about how i shook my jar up so hard, that the naphtha wouldn't separate no matter what i did. Well, i let the jar just sit in my closet for a few days, and day by day another millimeter, by millimeter i saw the level of naphtha rising. The separation was EXTREEMLY slow.

I did some math, and concluded that the layer of naphtha i was seeing on top of the lye/mhrb solution was roughly 950ml, most of the liter of naphtha that i had poured in side a few days earlier. So i decided it was time to take it out. I syringed that solution into a jar, did a few washes with sodium carbonate, then cold water. I stuck it in the freezer to percip.

I came back 30 hours later, and saw a good amount of crystals floating around in my jar. They just didn't want to settle. So i decided to just pour it into another container, and let it evap. So i did, i poured the contents of the jar into another container and set it outside. At this point the naphtha and crystals were still cold, and i could see the crystals floating around, but that's it! There was absolutely NOTHING else floating in that container.

I came back an hour later, and saw that a bit had evaporated, and the crystals were gone. Probably melted and redissolved back into the naphtha, so i didn't think anything of it. I left for another hour and came back again, this time i was to meet a new friend that decided to make home in my naphtha. There was still a good deal of naphtha left (600ml), crystals were still not visible, but i was presented with a quarter sized blob of orange liquid chilling at the bottom of my container like he owns the place. I don't know what it was, or where it came from. I dont even know how it could have formed in a mere hour. But there was nothing i could do, it was there and i had to live with it. I'm still evaping the naphtha, and the nice lump of goo is still sitting there. Did it fall into my container from the sky?

My idea is that when the crystals returned to normal temperature, they redissolved in the naphtha, and for some reason decided to join into a super blob of orange stuff. I really don't have another explanation to what it is. I could expect something like this to happen when there was nearly no naphtha left, but at 600ml i dont quite understand.

It is my personal belief that the more you mix your naphtha with the lye/mhrb solution, the more dmt is picked up by the naphtha. Therefore to get a rich DMT filled pull, you should shake as hard as you can for a few minutes, and just wait it out for the naphtha to separate, even if it takes 2 days. Keeping my naphtha mixed for so long with the mhrb, i believe i extracted some jungle spice, and it grouped together inside my evaporation container for reasons unknown.

Any ideas?

Btw, i just made all that up^^. Just saying.

probabily oils and Dmt N oxide...naptha will not pick up the jungle spice.

It could be because you left it evapping some of the DMT oxidised. I've never come across jungle spice unless using xylene or limonene.

Is there anything to do with oxidized DMT to recover it?

EDIT: Not quite sure about the oxidized DMT anyway. There are plenty of teks recommending freeze percip, and then evaping whats left. Also drying your DMT out would oxidize it as well. From what i understand it takes a much longer time to oxidize dmt than an hour floating in naphtha.

Again i would understand if small doplets of this goo were forming at the bottom of the container after hours of evaporation. But in one hour a decent sized blob just appeared, when there was still plenty of naphtha left to evaporate. I'm half considering that something just fell out of the sky.

Sounds like residual base solution in yur Naptha.
After a small amount of time it will pool together, it is usually an orangish/brownish colored, roundish (but kind of flat) ball that coagulates at the bottom of the jar.

I usually use a small pipette, or eye dropper to suck it off the bottom if I get any.


WS

This is possible. But why did it not disappear during the wash? Why could i not see it while it was in the freezer, and it only grouped together while evapin? Everything looked crystal clean before.

Either way, It's almost done evaporating, and i can see crystals floating around. I'll go get some more naphtha and dissolve everything and clean the container with it. Pour it back in a jug, do 2 more washes, and one cold water wash. And then revap.

Sounds good?

I would forget the evapping and just go for the freeze precip. First put the naphta in the fridge for a couple of hours, then put it in the freezer and turn the freezer as cold as it goes. Then wait 24 hours and you should have lots of crystals.

If you let the naphta be in the freezer long enough, the crystals should stick to the container so it'll be easy to just pour away the naphta, let the crystals dry and scrape them off.

How is SWIM evapping it? If there is a lot of air flow, there will be greater oxygen which = more oxidized DMT. search dmt oxide zinc and you will find a tek on how to get dmt n oxide back to DMT, or, since it is active itself, smoke it ^^

Sounds like a good way to get a wicked emulsion and base stuck in your naptha.....
Try washing your naptha or at least decant and inspect the blob separately.
Hypothetically speaking....

It seems to me that you just have too much naphta for the amount of DMT, so DMT hardly crystalize in the freezer.

100-200 ml is a good amount to freeze (unless you did 2 kg of MHRB).

SWIM always evaporate 350 ml-> 150 with a small fan and slow heat (around 50 degree) which is a matter of one or 2 hours... and he do not get N-oxyde but enventually yellowish crystals.

If you heat your naphta, maybe a big part of the orange blob will dissolve in it (unless it is water + mhrb stuff coloring it).

It's in the freezer.

I did my best to dissolve the orange blob. I added more naphtha and tried swishing it around, it will NOT dissolve. I added more naphtha to the evap container, swished it around to clean the container up, and poured everything into a bottle. Sodium carbonate washed it twice, got a surprising amount of junk out (including ALL of the brown stuff which as coming out looked EXACLY like mhrb remains. For the sake of my sanity ill assume thats what it was) I now have roughly 150ml of naphtha in a flat-box like container sitting in my freezer. Lets see what happens, I'm not expecting anything really.