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wanderNwonder
#21 Posted : 12/28/2016 7:26:06 AM

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Cognitive Heart wrote:
A complete disregard for our species, cannabis and the planet. Thumbs down

Yes. How blind can they be? I was sick when I saw this.
With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this Calling
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time. -- T. S. Eliot

 

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wanderNwonder
#22 Posted : 12/28/2016 7:30:36 AM

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Jees wrote:


I do get the drift: in time things must and will fall into place, like gravity, but god darn somehow the lies have an ace in their sleeve we can't ignore, a vulnerability in our software, a correcting mechanism that wants us to kill ourselves? An automated self regulating population mechanism, provided by our beloved 'nature'?
Wut?

I read seldom a book, but "The Alchemist" of Paulo Coelho, new age as it might be, stroke a chord in me in the way that the protagonist did not really frontally engaged to change the forces that seemed to act against him, but he sailed 'in his way' meandering nicely between the threads that were upon him. He was mainly focusing on his drive and spend energy mainly there instead of on the treads that were upon him. This approach could be seen as sticking your head in the ground aka denial, but the book suggested, and my life path seems to acknowledge, that there is more than only frontal attack of what hinders you. Of course who feels called to fight must do and I sympathize. But the alternative way, meandering nicely around and between the threads, focus on your very consciousness flourishing, having the balls to see the lies you are living yourself, working on that, could ripple effect and spread out per the back door of inter-connection, creating change eventually in a more rigorous way than you could ever imagined. I know it spells like new age, but I believe in quantum potentials.





This was very insightful Jees...Nice observation.
With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this Calling
We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time. -- T. S. Eliot

 
JustAnotherHuman
#23 Posted : 12/31/2016 12:48:52 AM

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PsyDuckmonkey wrote:
Guys, are you aware that the DEA didn't actually make CBD oil illegal?

I mean, it's almost true, but 1) no substance has changed legal status, 2) CBD oil was not specifically mentioned.

Marijuana extracts have been illegal for as long as marijuana itself has been. Now the DEA gave them a specific code. So up until now it was be categorized under the same code as bud, and now under something else.

CBD oil can be extracted from marijuana (cannabis plant with THC content above cutoff level) or hemp (cannabis plant without THC content above cutoff level). Hemp extracts aren't illegal. Yes it's dumb, but that's US law (and well drug law in general) for you.

And even so, don't forget that the Fugitive Slave Act was enacted only a few years before Emancipation. It's always darkest before sunrise.


I think that there is legitimate reason for concern here PsyDuckmonkey. Based on my interpretation of the wording of the new rule, and I admit that I'm moar than clueless on legal matters, it seems like what they're doing is changing their own administrative codes to include any cannabinoids, extracted from any cannabis plant, as a Schedule 1 drug.

Now, this might not be anything, but forgive me if I don't trust anything that the DEA does. To me, they're criminals, who'll use any legal finagling to get their way. And with Jeff Sessions coming in, there's even moar reason for worry.

I love that quote BTW PsyDuckmonkey! I think it says a lot about the times we live in.
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Ufostrahlen
#24 Posted : 12/31/2016 11:47:16 AM

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PsyDuckmonkey wrote:
Marijuana extracts have been illegal for as long as marijuana itself has been. Now the DEA gave them a specific code. So up until now it was be categorized under the same code as bud, and now under something else.

CBD oil can be extracted from marijuana (cannabis plant with THC content above cutoff level) or hemp (cannabis plant without THC content above cutoff level). Hemp extracts aren't illegal. Yes it's dumb, but that's US law (and well drug law in general) for you.

Mhh, but hemp IS cannabis:

Quote:
(58) Marihuana Extract—(7350)

Meaning an extract containing one or more cannabinoids that has been derived from any plant of the genus Cannabis, other than the separated resin (whether crude or purified) obtained from the plant.

https://www.federalregis...de-for-marihuana-extract


So to me that sounds like all extracts from Cannabis are illegal if they contain a cannabinoid. Luckily, Zynerba develops a synthetic CBD gel:

Quote:
First and Only Synthetic CBD Formulated as a Permeation-Enhanced Gel Being Developed for Refractory Epilepsy, Osteoarthritis and Fragile X Syndrome

http://zynerba.com/in-development/cbd-gel-zyn002/


The US synth CBD competition against UK plant CBD competition.

Quote:
Epidiolex is GW’s lead cannabinoid product candidate and is a proprietary oral solution of pure plant-derived cannabidiol, or CBD.

https://www.gwpharm.com/...ents-caregivers/patients

They only want DEA controlled/approved companies/drugs on the market, if I understand the reasoning of the DEA.
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