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dascactus
#1 Posted : 12/17/2016 4:01:52 AM
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Which tek would be best to extract all the alkaloids not just mescaline from san pedro?

Kash's tek looks kind of easy but I'm not sure...
not sure on the safety procedure of the chemicals involved and how to dispose of them when done...

I've done 69ron's but want something easier to measure but still want all the goodies of all the alkaloids...



might just do this...
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/d....aspx?g=posts&t=8404
 

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#2 Posted : 12/17/2016 7:29:39 AM

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Using Kash's tek, which if I remember correctly, employs HCl, and xylene + possible purifying/re-crystallization, should extract a spectrum of alkaloids beyond just mescaline. Whether its the 'whole' spectrum is questionable, and if you want that, I think resin would be the way to go. But I think that one gets the spectrum one wants with Kash's tek.
Atleast upon initial evap of hcl/mescaline solution, one gets a tannish/white crystalline layer that is not just mescaline (probably some plant fats and other alkaloids and things), but is mainly the good stuff.
Xylene can be reused. I believe there's info around the site on disposal too.

Also, you really should be cognizant of what chemicals you are using and the safety procedures involved. Not to baby you, but: Hcl is volatile and you should be mindful not to inhale it. It can blind you if you get concentrated solution in your eyes, or can burn you if on your skin. I assume you will be acquiring more dilute hcl - muriatic acid, or some other grade. Just be mindful of what you are using and the safety procedures. Xylene is a volatile as well, and is flammable. Work with it in a place with some ventilation.
Not to scare you away from chemicals either, because I think teks that use strong acids/bases and efficient solvents are great, but you really should know what you are doing, and do your homework, for your own sake.
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#3 Posted : 12/17/2016 8:19:30 PM

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Kash's tek will extract most of the alkaloids from the plant. The same goes for 69ron's tek.

If you do not have basic lab experience and a good understanding I would strongly recommend the tek of 69ron. Follow it to the letter and you should get the alkaloids in a very safe way.
 
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#4 Posted : 12/17/2016 8:35:48 PM

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all the a/b extract more than mesc, you can separate out the mesc w/ HCl in dry tone iirc

since you want em all

any ab will work, it just comes down to how you prefer

personally I'm a fan of bassifying a potent tea and going from there
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#5 Posted : 12/17/2016 8:38:26 PM

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you could also just drink the tea instead of extracting to salt
its never the same huachuma experience ime, never. though its the best drug I've ever touched ::Smile
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#6 Posted : 12/20/2016 4:27:16 PM
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Well I have done a few mhrb extractions which always gave me pure xtals Big grin when it was available and I have done 1 acrb extract which left me with some red goo that has solidified unless it gets hot then it kinda melts.... not sure what to make of it but it's potent so I'm not a stranger to handling chemicals

It's just I don't want to rush in either lol should I just google safety procedures for handling hcl and xylene and MEK?

and how to dispose of these properly?

I could try the tea I've never had it only had mescaline mix from 69rons mesc carbonate modified tek.

 
 
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