You create your own reality
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Hi Nexians! Just wanted to pose a question to the Nexus, namely does growing your own sacraments lead to a more satisfying experience as opposed to say, buying them from a vendor. I would imagine that growing the entheogens yourself would lead to a more fulfilling experience. What has your experience been? Is there a difference? JustAnotherHuman is a fictional character. Everything said by this character should be regarded as completely fabricated.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."-Benjamin Franklin.
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Boundary condition
Posts: 8617 Joined: 30-Aug-2008 Last visit: 07-Nov-2024 Location: square root of minus one
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My homegrown cactus experience was considerably better than using purchased SP chips. And not one of my cacti was purchased by me, each was a gift from various dear friends. The satisfaction of growing them was itself beyond measure. тАЬThere is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." тАХ Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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Dreamoar
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Terence Mckenna wrote:It's sort of an odd fact about mushrooms that the qualities you need to take them are precisely the qualities that you will inculcate into yourself if you learn how to grow them -- punctuality, cleanliness, attention to detail, so forth and so on. http://deoxy.org/t_camden.htm I find cultivating my own medicine adds a whole new level of depth and fulfillment to my experiences. There is something of yourself that gets put into tending a garden that makes enjoying the produce so much moar fulfilling than just buying some random commercial product. There is no greater joy to my mind, than to harvest the fruits of my labor out of my own garden and enjoying them with a clear conscience.
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 291 Joined: 12-Jan-2016 Last visit: 24-Jan-2021 Location: here and now boys, here and now
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dreamer042 wrote:Terence Mckenna wrote:It's sort of an odd fact about mushrooms that the qualities you need to take them are precisely the qualities that you will inculcate into yourself if you learn how to grow them -- punctuality, cleanliness, attention to detail, so forth and so on. http://deoxy.org/t_camden.htm I find cultivating my own medicine adds a whole new level of depth and fulfillment to my experiences. There is something of yourself that gets put into tending a garden that makes enjoying the produce so much moar fulfilling than just buying some random commercial product. There is no greater joy to my mind, than to harvest the fruits of my labor out of my own garden and enjoying them with a clear conscience. Couldn't have said it better... реР рдЕрд╕рддреЛ рдорд╛ рд╕рджреНрдЧрдордп ред рддрдорд╕реЛ рдорд╛ рдЬреНрдпреЛрддрд┐рд░реНрдЧрдордп ред рдореГрддреНрдпреЛрд░реНрдорд╛ рдЕрдореГрддрдВ рдЧрдордп ред
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 989 Joined: 27-Dec-2014 Last visit: 17-Feb-2024
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smoothmonkey wrote:dreamer042 wrote:Terence Mckenna wrote:It's sort of an odd fact about mushrooms that the qualities you need to take them are precisely the qualities that you will inculcate into yourself if you learn how to grow them -- punctuality, cleanliness, attention to detail, so forth and so on. http://deoxy.org/t_camden.htm I find cultivating my own medicine adds a whole new level of depth and fulfillment to my experiences. There is something of yourself that gets put into tending a garden that makes enjoying the produce so much moar fulfilling than just buying some random commercial product. There is no greater joy to my mind, than to harvest the fruits of my labor out of my own garden and enjoying them with a clear conscience. Couldn't have said it better... I second that
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You create your own reality
Posts: 366 Joined: 17-Sep-2016 Last visit: 02-Sep-2023 Location: The Material Plane
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It seems like the general consensus is that growing your own sacraments does facilitate a better experience. I thought that that would be the case. It makes perfect sense. Quote:My homegrown cactus experience was considerably better than using purchased SP chips. And not one of my cacti was purchased by me, each was a gift from various dear friends. The satisfaction of growing them was itself beyond measure. Quote:Terence Mckenna wrote: It's sort of an odd fact about mushrooms that the qualities you need to take them are precisely the qualities that you will inculcate into yourself if you learn how to grow them -- punctuality, cleanliness, attention to detail, so forth and so on. http://deoxy.org/t_camden.htmI find cultivating my own medicine adds a whole new level of depth and fulfillment to my experiences. There is something of yourself that gets put into tending a garden that makes enjoying the produce so much moar fulfilling than just buying some random commercial product. There is no greater joy to my mind, than to harvest the fruits of my labor out of my own garden and enjoying them with a clear conscience. It would appear that the personal investment in the growing process is what helps add to the overall experience. You have to be meticulous and hardworking (and have a lot of patience) to grow a plant(or mushrooms, for that matter) to maturity and the reward of a bountiful harvest makes all that effort and waiting worthwhile. Don't you guys think that the satisfaction of being sustainable might also be a factor? JustAnotherHuman is a fictional character. Everything said by this character should be regarded as completely fabricated.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."-Benjamin Franklin.
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DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 81 Joined: 15-Nov-2015 Last visit: 18-Jan-2020 Location: Deep in the forest
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JustAnotherHuman wrote: It would appear that the personal investment in the growing process is what helps add to the overall experience. You have to be meticulous and hardworking (and have a lot of patience) to grow a plant(or mushrooms, for that matter) to maturity and the reward of a bountiful harvest makes all that effort and waiting worthwhile.
Don't you guys think that the satisfaction of being sustainable might also be a factor?
Indeed, but I also think that when you grow a sacred plant, you begin a "discussion" with the plant, when you take care of her. This discussion continues when you ingest/smoke the plant; it's like a wedding between my spirit and the plant spirit. I also find that growing a plant with a clear intention gives a great experience when you ingest it. I particulary agree with downwardsfromzero statement about cactus: homegrown San Pedro give an incredibly profound trance compared to purchased San Pedro powder. And you can't make more sustainable: when you cut your cactus, you get at least two new ones...
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Boundary condition
Posts: 8617 Joined: 30-Aug-2008 Last visit: 07-Nov-2024 Location: square root of minus one
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Yeah, it was definitely worth the fifteen-year wait In all sincerity. тАЬThere is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." тАХ Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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witch
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In my viewpoint, it's all about ceremony. Self-extracted / prepared from self-grown is better than Self-extracted / prepared from purchased plant matter is better than Purchased ready-to-use. The psychedelic journey is a traumatic experience, and requires a ceremonial setting for full integration. The extraction or brewing itself is a ceremony, but the continuous work of growing a plant and harvesting is even greater a ceremony. Also, if you set "ceremonial" rules for yourself about not using substance that you didn't raise and extract yourself, it also places a limit on your consumption, and can help avoid abuse. So yes, if growing is a possibility for you, I do think it's a good thing. Do you believe in the THIRD SUMMER OF LOVE?
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