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Hello all, this is my first post and i hope i have not done something wrong. I want to extract as soon as posible my first dmt. I will use mhrb, naphta(zipo lighter fuel) and sodium hydroxide.(the tek i want to do is Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek) The problem is i have only shredded mhrb and i don't have acces to a coffe grinder or a blender to powder it. Will be a problem if will do cybs salt tek using shredded mhrb or is another teks recommended for it? Thanks in advance and sorry my english.
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In general, the higher the surface area / volume ratio of each particle of MHRB, the better your yields. With a longer boil though, you might be able to fully penetrate the bark. It's worth remembering that the Indigenous Ayahuasqueros didn't have coffee grinders or blenders either and their brews work just fine. I would do 3x 3hr boils, reduce, and acidify that. Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:In general, the higher the surface area / volume ratio of each particle of MHRB, the better your yields. With a longer boil though, you might be able to fully penetrate the bark. It's worth remembering that the Indigenous Ayahuasqueros didn't have coffee grinders or blenders either and their brews work just fine.
I would do 3x 3hr boils, reduce, and acidify that.
Blessings ~ND Thanks for reply, so i will boil it how you say and i hope for the best.If i get 800 mg total dmt then will be a successful extract.
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I have shredded MHRB and can usually get around 1.5% yield from it with just an hour acid boil, but I do freeze and thaw twice first. My process is freeze thaw freeze thaw acid boil 1 hour in 500ml water per 50g top up liquid to around 1.5L and salt basify leave overnight 4 x 50ml nahptha pulls at 45C cool to room temp fridge wrap freeze unwrap and freeze upside down evap scrape smoalk always good yields. Quote: Darkness cannot banish darkness, only light can do that
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I use only shredded MHRB and get a 2% yield (thanks the good quality of my bark). Freeze&thaw 2 or 3 time Pressure cooking 1x30min and 2x15min Combine the boils and reduce Then follow Cyb's tek « I love the smell of boiling MHRB in the morning »
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Studio1one wrote:I have shredded MHRB and can usually get around 1.5% yield from it with just an hour acid boil, but I do freeze and thaw twice first.
My process is
freeze thaw freeze thaw acid boil 1 hour in 500ml water per 50g top up liquid to around 1.5L and salt basify leave overnight 4 x 50ml nahptha pulls at 45C cool to room temp fridge wrap freeze unwrap and freeze upside down evap scrape smoalk
always good yields. This is great! Could you please answer me to these three questions: When you freeze first time do you add some water for a better cell break? Do you get white dmt or brown/jungle from extraction? And finally, if i freeze and thaw twice then go with cybs salt tek(i find it best explained + has 2% yield) and just leave overnight the mix and then add naphtha will i get succesful extraction?
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VasiDobie wrote:Studio1one wrote:I have shredded MHRB and can usually get around 1.5% yield from it with just an hour acid boil, but I do freeze and thaw twice first.
My process is
freeze thaw freeze thaw acid boil 1 hour in 500ml water per 50g top up liquid to around 1.5L and salt basify leave overnight 4 x 50ml nahptha pulls at 45C cool to room temp fridge wrap freeze unwrap and freeze upside down evap scrape smoalk
always good yields. This is great! Could you please answer me to these three questions: When you freeze first time do you add some water for a better cell break? Do you get white dmt or brown/jungle from extraction? And finally, if i freeze and thaw twice then go with cybs salt tek(i find it best explained + has 2% yield) and just leave overnight the mix and then add naphtha will i get succesful extraction? 1. Yes I add the 500ml acidified water before freezing, the same water is used for the boil 2. I get sandy coloured DMT, it could easily be re-exed to white but I don't feel the need, its pure enough to form crystals 3. Yes but I would recommend warming to around 45C before adding nahptha. Much hotter and you will pull a lot of plant oils / fats and need to do a clean up Quote: Darkness cannot banish darkness, only light can do that
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I agree that leaving in a strong base for extended period will lyse the cells much better than an acidic solution. A week seems a bit extreme though. Quote: Darkness cannot banish darkness, only light can do that
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I never grind the bark and generally get around 1.6% yield of white crystals. But then I'm not in a hurry either. The MHRB sits in strong lye solution for a week before doing the first pull with solvent. Just a bit of gentle mashing every second day. 2nd pull a week after that, 3rd the following week, etc. I don't freeze precipitate either, just evaporate and with a bit of gentle care in the final stage can make sure I'm getting the crystals without any of the other solids. In all of reality there are not two. There is just the one thing. And I am that.
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NotTwo wrote:I never grind the bark and generally get around 1.6% yield of white crystals. But then I'm not in a hurry either. The MHRB sits in strong lye solution for a week before doing the first pull with solvent. Just a bit of gentle mashing every second day. 2nd pull a week after that, 3rd the following week, etc.
I don't freeze precipitate either, just evaporate and with a bit of gentle care in the final stage can make sure I'm getting the crystals without any of the other solids. Could you please tell me what tek do you use or what tek should i use to can get a yield like you? I have used an a/b at my first extraction and my yield was very low.(i think because i am newbie or the mhrb was very poor in dmt...).
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I can't believe you guys have gotten this far without defining what you mean by shredded. To me shredded looks like this:   But to some shredded looks like this:   Here is my current acacia bark pile in my back garden:  Just kidding.
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n0thing wrote:I can't believe you guys have gotten this far without defining what you mean by shredded. To me shredded looks like this:  My shredded mhrb look like these two.
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