n0thing wrote:pitubo wrote:My impression, though I must admit that I doubt my understanding of what OP means, is that the procedure is meant to introduce a kind of dizzy lightheadedness that causes a mental effect of mild dissociation and derealization. I can see how that could influence the dmt experience, by weakening fortified ego barriers that might otherwise prevent one from surrendering to the dmt effects.
Finally! You are the first person who has understood this. I really want your help. How can I possibly write a reformation so that people can understand what you just said very clearly?
Strangely, majority of people seemed to think this is the same thing as hyperventilating while completely missing the point about how HOLDING the breath AFTER hyperventilating induces the dissociation feeling.
Can you please write an example of what such a post would look like? I thought my OP was very clear in establishing it succintly but it appears that is not so.
Perhaps some of the people who attest that this method is useful for them can best be of help in creating a practicable description? Otherwise, I don't know what else to say apart from what I have already said. The technique of holding in breath is not my preferred method.
n0thing wrote:Great, thanks for trying. It works good in allowing you to extend the amount of time you can hold your dmt in so that you don't waste any like most people do taking quick puffs like they do when they smoke weed or tobaco.
Also try the breathing technique WHILE your are tripping for a heavier effect. like 10-20 seconds after you smoke the dmt
My preferred technique is to calmly take a few deep breaths, with emphasis on reasonably complete exhalations, to increase the availablity of oxygen in the body. Breathing out calmly also helps to relax the body, which in turn helps to calm the mind and dissipate any anticipation stress. On completion of the exhalation, breathing in is done automatically and more rapidly. This is repeated a few times until I feel vibrantly alive, but calm.
Right before the actual toking from the smoalking device, I again exhale fully. Then vapors are gently sucked in, partly into the airways directly, but largely also in the mouth and throat. When sufficient vapor has been generated and taken in, I take a deep breath, immediately pulling the vapors, mixed with fresh air, deep into the lungs.
I try to
not hold my breath after inhaling, but instead to
keep inhaling slowly. I feel that this causes less pressure on the lungs, the arteries and the psyche. When it becomes uncomfortable to try to further keep inhaling, I gently and slowly exhale, again maximally trying to relax the body while exhaling.
The technique of exhaling before taking in smoke and then inhaling the smoke deep into the lungs with added fresh air used to be what I always did when I still smoked cannabis and tobacco. It is natural for me to do the same with dmt and I have never felt the need to take a second or third hit.
downwardsfromzero wrote:How will the holding-in of vapour impact the overall respiratory alkalosis effect? Won't freebase DMT cause a localised alkalising effect in the lungs?
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This is in fact an interesting observation.