Inquiring Dr Barker can result in a mere relativistic attitude:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=659005#post659005

None of that is evidence that DMT is produced in the lungs, it's just one man speculating. I'd want to see pulmonary tissue samples with measurable concentrations of DMT, as well as the precursors and enzymes necessary to carry out this pathway. Same is true of the liver.

Even then, that still wouldn't suggest that DMT was actually doing something and wasn't just physiological white noise - for that I'd want to see what kind of effects the blockade of that pathway has on behavior and physiological function. Ideally, all of these findings would then be replicated.

If that sounds like unrealistically high expectations, now you know why science takes so bloody long...

Blessings
~ND

haha. I understand and appreciate your academic level of scrutiny, but the idea of DMT being simply extra biological white noise is just absurd to me. I totally understand you withholding until hard science comes out, but I do believe what I said earlier contained "probably" and cited the rate at which DMT is broken down and lack of research being the reasons the hard science doesn't exist.

I cannot wait to be fascinated with the actual hard studies finally showing why DMT (very probably) is present in our (or any) biology but no person in earth could ever convince me of it being somehow an accident or "extra" to the system.

I do not believe the Universe does "extra". It's a closed system.

We're actually pretty freakin' close



https://www.nhlbi.nih.go...-genome-with-human-mouse

As an article of faith, that's totally fine, and you are more than welcome to maintain that belief, but when proposing roles for DMT or presenting things as fact, you should be cognizant of whether you're basing your argument on evidence, or faith.

Blessings
~ND

I think it's a fairly logical conclusion.

>>Everything<<
^ where is there for anything else to come from or go to?

I presented my opinions on DMT as "probably" and produced links when questioned on any particulars.

I have ideas but I'm not simply yelling into the wind with no basis for the noise.

Anywho, what (if any) experience do you have with dmt and sleep?

Completely agree here. I'm using melatonin to regulate my sleep cycles because of the night shifts for years nearly every day. The problem is bright light, can completely neutralise melatonin (or its production).

There appears to be about 12,000+ papers done on melatonin (so far) and it's still pretty hard to get some clear cut information on it. As far as I know from using it extensively, it works like a charm and it pretty much preserved my health over the years, otherwise I'd be falling apart.

I use pure melatonin now and often I go way beyond what is effective (20-30 or more mg) - the worst thing that can happen: drowsiness, feeling a little grumpy or just oversleeping... I find it best at least 10h before I plan to wake up for proper sleep.

And smoking melatonin is something I read people do on Reddit (if i recall correctly), can give some sort of a high... but pointless and unsafe in my opinion.

Triptamines... yum yum yum.

Aaaaand... magnesium, relatively high doses will relax muscles, pretty safe as well, can give you veeery vivid dreams (especially in combo with melatonin), and help your immune system.

Hi turmeric, welcome to the forum.. there is no discussion of a few things in your post such as acquiring. Just giving a heads up.

Thank you. I'll be more careful.

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I'm not a prophet, I wouldn't presume to know how 'everything' works. There are plenty of examples of biological white-noise however - many different metabolites serve no purpose, and evolution has left tons of random bits floating around that have since lost their utility. The universe may be a closed system, but that doesn't mean it's a perfectly efficient one. The existence of entropy pretty much proves otherwise.

Blessings
~ND

Excuse me for going off topic but this part amazes me. Desmond Morris (le british ethologist) made an implication in one of his books that what makes us humans so cerebral is this biological tendecy (adaptation) to stay immature for so long - the learning curve is extended as it takes 25 years (!) to fully develop the prefrontal cortex (Robert Sapolsky). Good news for all you childish adults.

BTW Jesus said something similar, did he not?

I wonder if anyone has ever tested the blood of energetic children for psychoactive compounds or high alkaloid levels

edit: also is there a more perfect explanation for the "deju vu" that's fairly commonly associated with the dmt flash than that a similar place is reached during peak dreaming states? That or past lives perhaps.

That I'd like to know as well. But, there seems to be a recognised (studied) sleeping pattern occurrence among highly intelligent children: when they are young they sleep less then average (opposite for less gifted)... then later, approaching year 10, the tables turn - intelligent kids will more often feel exhausted by external stimuli, therefore require a lot more sleep (again, the opposite for the other side of the spectrum). Melatonin here plays an important role because it acts as a powerful anti-oxidant recovery agent.


I have a very strong feeling that this might be the case, regarding previous lives.