We should call him out for what he is: a fraud.


That's it, there are no magic billions.


You should write a book about it. Have you already given interviews to CNN?

I will say though, I'd be happy to volunteer for a study testing the effect of psychedelic drugs on the acquisition of billions of dollars. Anyone want to start drafting an IRB proposal?

Blessings
~ND

Please be careful here. I believe actually they are very much worth the money if one uses them properly. It's unfortunate the nootropics you mentioned didn't work for you. As for myself I must say, to balance the scales on this small side-subject, I use nootropics successfully and frequently on a precisely dialed in schedule. I use things like Alpha-GPC, Piracetam, Aniracetam, Noopept, CDP Choline, Mind Lap Pro, Nitrovit, CILTEP, Mega Hydrate, PC complex, Magnesium L-Threonate, Vitamin D3, Pycnogenol, Huperzine A, Bacopa, Mucuna pruriens, Vinpocetine, Pterostilbene, Lion's Mane Mushroom, and the list goes on, all of which I have used with great success both by themselves and in combination with right diet and right timing. There are all kinds of ways you can optimize one's cognitive abilities if one knows how to do it! I must also add that galantamine is very harsh (not something I would take), DMAE (there are better choline sources), and Ritalin (I would not consider a nootropic but a stimulant. Huperzine a is arguably great but only every once in awhile, as taking an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor for too long might in the long run cause a whole new problem to reckon with. Finally, to be classified as a nootropic substance the compound must have evidence to support it having neuroprotective, neuroregenerative, and have basically zero neurological toxicity. So no, nootropics are not just for those with neurodegenerative conditions, but are of great utility to those who have the knowledge to use them intelligently, with right dose, right timing, and in right combinations.

I actually said the thing about nootropics ironically.

I saw a documentary about the the wannabe millionaires in Silicon Valley and how they chuck like 5 different nootropics to work.


Maybe its not that psychedelics make you smart/succesful. Maybe only smart/succesful people use them?
I personally dont know any "dumb" people that used psychedlics more than once. (outside of party drugs like mdma)

Also I think most people here got brains. Or maybe Im thinking to much of everybody here

Depends on how you definite 'dumb' and 'smart.' I know plenty of brilliant scientists and artists who have never tried a psychedelic and have no particular desire to.

I've also met die-hard psychonauts who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag (they'd just sit and tell you how enlightened they were).

Johns Hopkins did some studies on the personality traits associated with psych users. I can't remember the exact findings, but the most salient features were things like 'a tendency to try new and risky things.'

Blessings
~ND

"Willingness to try new and risky things"

Ha ha
Best way 2 make a billion

Or make mistakes

So how many billionaires on the nexus? Or are they all just meeting up in person to trade information about their teks
"after some experimentation I've concluded that using only gold containers, mixing implements and turkey baisters in extractions yields not only the finest product, but the deepest most enlightening experiences afterward" - bildaburg 2014

Depends on the currency; I reckon I'm a billionaire (represented by the Vietnamese Dong)...

A lot of prejudice and ubsubstantiated Claims in this Thread.



Steve Jobs:



Is it impossible to take into consideration the possibility, that for some people, it's really all about creating cool stuff and that money simply follows? That not every rich person has been born into wealth?



http://www.wealthx.com/a...6/american-billionaires/

According to this, most billionaires in the US are actually self-made. This may come as a shock, but it is very possible to earn 1,000,000,000 ALL BY YOURSELF. It is easier to assume ..evil capitalism....what can the "little guy" do..whine..whine..whine...



Have you actually read any of his books or listened to his podcast?
Ironically, he is friends with billionaires including Peter Thiel. So i guess that gives him some credibility on the subject. Also i'm not sure why you would believe he's got secret knowledge? A ton of what you need to know about getting wealthy is out in the open but it is up to YOU to apply this knowledge. Have you considered, that Tim Ferris does not WANT to put in the effort to become a billionaire? He'S good at what he dooes and that is finding shortcuts to time, wealth & health. That has made him a multi-millionaire and rightly so.

Also, have YOU donate 100k to mushrooms research:

http://www.businessinsid...ch-for-depression-2016-1

or put your ass on the line talking about psychedelics to millions of followers, helping to further harm reduction and responsible use.

It might come as a surprise to some, but quite a few of wealthy "capitalists" i have talked with were awesome, helpful people ...relaxed and cool.

Why is it so hard to see, that psychedelics have the ability to be used for problem solving? Not everyone is a hippie and wants to use psychedelics to feel even more connected to the earth. I think its a given that especially LSD has furthered IT tremendously.

Who says that psychedelics are needed for creating billions? The documentary segment is not even about money....

This thread is off the rails...

Well said, obliguhl. But can anyone here unequivocally claim that they can solve math problems quicker and/or easier while on LSD?

wut? why the quotes? benzyme wrote this.


No, I read the books of real billionaires, not aspiring ones.


Piece of cake. That's one MS for Benzyme's research facility. But then one scientist and one piece of equipment is quite lousy for a lab. I want at least 1B for sequencing machines, datacenters, scientist salaries etc. Can't throw my money away for the greater cause.


Thanks for putting it back on track.



I totally agree. Why should it be the other way around? Like who gives you money, just by demanding it? You have to offer a valuable service.



We should totally turn this around. Why not own lush compounds filled with cool equipment and interesting people creating opportunities for those less fortunate?

I'd like to have one of these:

Maybe I just have a problem with CNN when it comes to factual information. What actual research says:

It's possible but it would be very difficult. I have only managed to make good money through business transactions by having money to play with to begin with. Don't self made billionaires in finance/banking (which are listed in your link as the top percentage of billionaires) make their money by using other peoples money? Therefore they do not make their
money ALL BY THEMSELVES. Even whizzkids who have great ideas need investors. Vis a vis you nearly always need money in order to make large wads of cash.

Define 'self made.' I'm sure a lot of these 'self-made' billionaires were able to cash in on all kinds of social capital that many 'little guys' would never have access to. What kind of education did they get? Who do they know? Did they come from an environment were they were more likely to be arrested or killed? What languages were they born fluent in. How much money did their parents have?

The list goes on.

A lot of 'self made' talk roughly translates into 'I was born 85% of the way up the mountain, look how great I am that I got that 15% done, you folks down at basecamp with broken legs really need to try harder.'

Blessings
~ND

Pablo Escobar was a self made billionaire.

4 hour workweek is a magnificent book and comes highly recommended!



Noone makes money out of thin air but the federal reserve.
Knowing which companies are financially worthwhile to support is a needed skill in capitalism. A skill which can be traded in for money.



The irony of that statement is: YES they DO need to try harder if they want to reach the top. Why is it always assumed that all is equal or has to be equal? People growing up in wealthy families come from a lineage which has proven itself not only to be "lucky" but also highly adaptive. It's not like you can't be in the dumps if you are a total idiot with money but got rich parents.

Where do youi draw the line? Would you say it isn't ok for a poor american to earn 10x more than a bangladeshian ? Even if he has to work multiple jobs to make ends meet? That he should "check his priviledge" ?

I would assume that wealth generation is based on hard work, intelligence, social skills, determination and of course...luck. But luck is but one factor in this and if you are not priviledged, you have to try harder indeed.

Imagine you were some ugly 40y old basement dwelling virgin. But oh well, you still got your sex drive! What to do? There is no choice but to try harder. The universe won't manifest a bridge by whining about it. Nor will it provide you with wealth by filling your bathtub with tears.

Yes. A skill that is learned from experience gained from spending and sometimes losing other peoples money for them. A lot of experiences in life are gained in life by making mistakes and learning what not to do.

As for equality i really do not think it is too much to ask for a more even distribution of wealth. It certainly wouldn't hurt your basement dwelling virgin to be thrown a few sexually gratifying crumbs by some studmuffin that's getting laid by 3 different partners each night.

Mhh okay, if you say so... I requested the first 50 pages for free here:

http://fourhourworkweek.com/

Let's hope I can hallucinate in the main room of Castillo Caribe soon! Also somebody needs to remove that dirty algae from the beach.

Obli - I make no claims about what should or should not be. I'm merely pointing out that a lot of the 'self made man' rhetoric that gets thrown around gives a skewed picture of what is involved with becoming a billionaire (or even just generically successful). Our lives are determined way more by our place in society and dumb luck than hard work and backbone.

You're totally right, it's a cruel reality that some people have to work harder to get to the top of the mountain, but, if you were born close to the top and had a sherpa carry you up, I'm a lot less likely to be impressed and probably roll my eyes when you try and exalt in your 'accomplishment.'

You're also right that hard work, intelligence, determination, and luck, all go into achieving success, but I think luck accounts for a huge (should I say "yuge" ) fraction of that pie chart (probably the vast, vast majority of it). Unfortunately, people fixate on the remaining fractions of a percent as if they were the whole pie.

If you want to get political about it, you could make an argument that the development of the 'rugged individual' and 'self made man' serves primarily to keep the lower classes self-focused and competing with eachother instead of working collaboratively on better their collective circumstances. But surely that's conspiracy theory.

Again, no commentary on what SHOULD be (you can't get an ought from an is, after all), just what is.

Blessings
~ND

When i see someone driving a Ferrari, i don't envy that person. I tend to rather envy the engineers who designed that beautiful piece of machinery.