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#1 Posted : 9/12/2016 11:04:27 PM

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Psychedelic Sunday (Mushchanga)

Date of Experience: Sunday, September 11th, 2016




Somehow or another I ended up with three days off in a row from work so I wanted to take a special journey. I've never combined changa while on mushrooms so I figured what better time than now?

It was a lovely Sunday, around 11am or so and I found myself walking to the gas station to pick up some OJ. It was breezy and around 70 degrees which is a nice change from the constant heat we've been having in my area lately. Unfortunately they were sold out of the bigger jugs (the biggest size they sell is half gallons) so I was forced to buy a handful of smaller 20oz ones.

For whatever reason, my normal dosage of mushrooms have been a bit underwhelming as of late. This puzzles me because my GF can have vivd, visionary experiences complete with meeting entities and the like on ~3.5g while I take ~5g. Now, while the experience is profound and special, I always feel like I could safely take it further if I wanted...I don't know what it is exactly but I must be holding myself back in some form or fashion. This is something I'm working on and I believe harmalas + mushrooms are in the near future. Anyway, one step at a time for now...

I wanted to smoalk changa first to get my feet wet with plans to eat the mushrooms and smoalk more changa during the experience. After much contemplation, I put a pinch or two in the bong and ripped it. I apparently got a piece of changa that was heavy with harmalas because while the normal pressure was there, I was left in an awkward sub breakthrough experience where I watched everything in my room randomly rearrange itself...flipping around and folding in on itself only to eventually pop back into place. This went on for a few minutes...I felt oddly disappointed but I wasn't about to let that get in the way of the rest of the trip. I laid there for a few more minutes with my eyes closed and watched strange, unexplainable little harmala style visions pop in and out of my head.

It was time to move forward.

Some of my cakes had a few mature fruits on them so having never eaten mushrooms wet before I decided I'd try that too. I weighed out 7g dry plus the 13 wet grams and blended it all into some funky OJ concoction. I've taken up to 9g before so this territory is not new for me but it is a sort of mental psychedelic space I haven't visited in a while. Due to what I mentioned above about being underwhelmed, I wanted to push the boundaries a bit, or at least see if I could. I took a solid 25 minutes drinking/chewing it while watching Malcolm In The Middle, which for the record, is one of the funniest shows to watch while tripping...but that is neither here nor there.

After about 1.2 hours, it started coming on pretty heavy. Normally my visuals occupy any and all solid surfaces but this was different. The visuals were also taking over the air itself, as if I was swimming in strange, almost wispy patterns. It was thick and almost alive. I was beginning to wonder if I might meet something or someone similar to what my GF has described. It seemed like I was in a psychedelic veil of some sort but couldn't quite get through it if that makes any sense.

It reminded me of my 9g trip but I didn't quite go as far...alas I could not pierce the veil. My stomach was full and everything was heavy...I was rolling around laughing hysterically at practically nothing but it felt good...I felt so goofy... It was a much needed release. The mental space was clear, and the visuals were quite stunning. I truly think that something was there, I just couldn't see it but I could feel it and I tried to welcome it but it never came and I never went. But I was happy with the space I found myself in. Extremely happy. It was on par with what I've been looking for.

I am/was also fighting off a cold so this was messing with me as well. I would get quite hot and sweaty, cough and what-have-you but it felt cleansing in a way. I'm not sure if I had a fever or not but it sure felt like I did for a while. Again, in a cleansing way because I feel great today, burned the bug right out of me I guess!

After much beating around the bush mixed with dancing and wandering around the house, I convinced myself to load up the changa bowl again. This was probably 3-4 hours into it after ingestion of the mushies. I took a hit. Nothing much. Took another hit. Felt it a bit..."hmmmm?" I thought and took a large rip and cleared the bowl.

Everything became a sort of digitized version of itself. I could feel my vision widening and the feeling of vibrating while floating was kicking in. But this was still nothing compared to a normal blastoff so I loaded moar and puffed on it. And just as I was starting to get somewhere with it, it seemed like the sudden intake of harmalas was upsetting my stomach. I dry heaved a few times and stumbled into the bathroom to try and empty my guts but nothing would come out. So, while it was all strangely psychedelic it was not what I expected. I will be trying it again, perhaps sooner into the experience next time.

I could feel that I was starting to get somewhere with the combo but the overwhelming nausea was off putting enough for me to leave it alone for the rest of the trip. Perhaps I will consider some freebase DMT next time and see how that goes.

I realize some of this may sound like I had a bit of a disappointing trip but it was actually quite the opposite. It was tremendously uplifting and positive and it was nice to experiment with things in a different way. I think the fresh mushrooms helped with this too. I can't put my finger on it but it felt more "rounded" or solid of a trip than with just dry mushrooms. A solid dose of only fresh is on my to do list as well. I will definitely keep experimenting!

Keep on keepin on!

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#2 Posted : 9/13/2016 9:34:01 AM

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Thanks for writing, so a very down to earth tale.

I'm not a mush-person by circumstances, that might change once I grow them in the future, but I hear that fresh muchies outclass dry.

That the changa came on hesitating might be due the dribbling approach you did on them? Just guessing.

I too tend to let loose what I was looking/expecting from an experience. It's hard to expect nothing but it's easy to let loose what was in the eventual expectation gun sight. My favorite one is expecting serendipity Big grin

Glad you had a good one.
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#3 Posted : 9/13/2016 10:19:08 AM

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Nice report and I happy you had such a positive experience Smile

I have only ever munched dry shrooms. I guess it's the sheer volume of wet ones needed that puts me off.

Is the blending in OJ your preferred method of ingestion? I pretty much all ways make tea (usually with lemon and peppermint) due to the taste and the fact it can be reduced to quite a small quantity of liquid... and it feels easier on the ol' tummy. Would be nice to experiment with different concoctions though.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/13/2016 11:17:30 AM

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It sounds like there might be an individual sweet spot for harmala content of changa when smoked with mushrooms. It sounds to me that your changa was pretty harmala heavy, and the harmalas were heavily colouring the changa/mushroom experience...I think it would be worth making up another batch, while going easier on the harmalas and experimenting with that. Freebase DMT alone is also well worth trying in combination with mushrooms, I actually really like the combo of psychedelic + DMT, much less jarring and anxiety producing than vaping freebase from sober.

I would HIGHLY recommend any shroomy peeps consider experimenting with consuming fresh mushrooms, if they never have done so before. ALL of my most incredible mushroom experiences came through consuming fresh mushrooms, there is an extra sparkle or essence to the trip I don't seem to get when they are dried...your description of the experience being more rounded or solid resonates completely. Yes they are certainly more effort to eat, and yes they may be harder on the gut, but despite this, I still think fresh is best when it comes to mushrooms. I totally appreciate that peeps would much rather say chow down 5g of dried mushrooms compared to say 50g fresh Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, but I would encourage peeps to seek out more potent species which I find induce a much higher order experience than P. cubensis as you need to consume a lot less to get to the equivalent place and it makes it much easier on the body. 10g fresh say of either Panaeolus cyanescens, Pan. cambodginiensis, P. semilanceata, P. cyanescens or P. mexicana is ample to induce a powerful experience.
 
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#5 Posted : 9/13/2016 12:25:52 PM

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Bancopuma wrote:
I would HIGHLY recommend any shroomy peeps consider experimenting with consuming fresh mushrooms, if they never have done so before. ALL of my most incredible mushroom experiences came through consuming fresh mushrooms, there is an extra sparkle or essence to the trip I don't seem to get when they are dried...your description of the experience being more rounded or solid resonates completely. Yes they are certainly more effort to eat, and yes they may be harder on the gut, but despite this, I still think fresh is best when it comes to mushrooms. I totally appreciate that peeps would much rather say chow down 5g of dried mushrooms compared to say 50g fresh Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms, but I would encourage peeps to seek out more potent species which I find induce a much higher order experience than P. cubensis as you need to consume a lot less to get to the equivalent place and it makes it much easier on the body. 10g fresh say of either Panaeolus cyanescens, Pan. cambodginiensis, P. semilanceata or P. mexicana is ample to induce a powerful experience.


Oh man, I definitely want to dive into the fresh world! I never knew there was such comparable difference. I can imagine Psilocybe Semilanceata (liberty caps) to be quite easy to eat fresh, due to being significantly stronger than cubensis by weight... and they are quite easily available once the season hits soon.
 
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#6 Posted : 9/13/2016 1:25:51 PM

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Hey dude Very happy I think it is definitely something worth experiencing a few times so you can compare experiences...it's hard to put into words...but I find a fresh mushroom trip to be more saturated with "life" in some way, with the experience having an extra liquid sparkle. I know that's pretty vague, but it's hard to describe in words, quite a tangible and consistent character of the experience though, for me anyway. A fresh liberty cap experience sounds like an excellent way to go...our native psilocybe, abundant when and where they occur, nice and potent, and one of the mildest flavoured psilocybe mushrooms I've encountered.
 
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#7 Posted : 9/13/2016 1:59:02 PM

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I agree the fresh ones have a certain thing going on.
Very smooth and special, they Can be strong in a different way
usually really good .

As far as nausea is concerned don't leave home without candied ginger .
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#8 Posted : 9/15/2016 3:02:57 AM

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Hey, thanks for all the feedback!

If there was a way to keep wet mushrooms fresh for long periods of time, I'd be all over that! Honestly, I'd like to take a trip with just fresh but unfortunately my timing is never quite perfect for that to happen.

As for my changa, I never put more than 500mg per gram of DMT anymore. It is closer to 250 if I'm not mistaken. I've had this batch for a while and forgot the exact ratios. Very happy I think it wasn't as evenly distributed as I would have liked and I got moar harmala action than I was expecting. Oh well, no harm no foul.

And DK, yeah I usually blend my dry mushrooms into a powder and stir it up into about a half glass of OJ (about 4oz give or take depending on dose). OJ hides the flavor pretty well but it does give the feeling like you are drinking straight pulp because of the mushies. That is off putting to some but not me!

Anyway, I have lots of experimenting to do with this combo now that I've done it. It took many many trips to finally convince myself and I'm glad I did!

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