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Hi everyone, please help identify this species: it has spines and look awfully like Phitecellobium flexicaule .... please help ricinante attached the following image(s):  DSC_0056.jpg (1,834kb) downloaded 144 time(s). DSC_0059.jpg (1,093kb) downloaded 143 time(s). DSC_0061.jpg (1,459kb) downloaded 143 time(s). DSC_0064.jpg (1,219kb) downloaded 143 time(s). DSC_0065.jpg (1,155kb) downloaded 143 time(s).
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Looks like Honey locusts tree (Gleditsia triacanthos) http://keyserver.lucidce...leditsia_triacanthos.htm-eg
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Honey locusts tree (Gleditsia triacanthos) Picture attached. I'm not 100% that it's Gleditsia triacanthos, it just really looks like it... It does also resemble Pithecellobium flexicaule, however for some reason I feel it looks more like Gleditsia triacanthos -eg entheogenic-gnosis attached the following image(s): gleditsiatriacanthos4lp_sml.jpg (17kb) downloaded 131 time(s).
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entheogenic-gnosis wrote:Honey locusts tree (Gleditsia triacanthos)
Picture attached.
I'm not 100% that it's Gleditsia triacanthos, it just really looks like it...
It does also resemble Pithecellobium flexicaule, however for some reason I feel it looks more like Gleditsia triacanthos
-eg Thank you ! It does not contain spice right ?
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entheogenic-gnosis wrote:Honey locusts tree (Gleditsia triacanthos)
Picture attached.
I'm not 100% that it's Gleditsia triacanthos, it just really looks like it...
It does also resemble Pithecellobium flexicaule, however for some reason I feel it looks more like Gleditsia triacanthos
-eg Could you please also take a look at this one ? https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=71966it is Robinia Pseudoacacia right?
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...maybe Robinia pseudoacacia seems to have broader and less clustered leafs... I've attached taxonomicly correct illustrations of both species. First is Gleditsia triacanthos (honey locusts tree), 2nd is Robinia pseudoacacia (black locust tree) I still think it's more likely to be Gleditsia triacanthos, but again, I'm not 100% at all on that. -eg entheogenic-gnosis attached the following image(s): GLEDITSIA_TRIACANTHOS_MICHAUX_V2_T79.JPG (1,242kb) downloaded 102 time(s). tumblr_m60t9bRTBO1qi77y6.jpg (85kb) downloaded 105 time(s).
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The thorns in your top picture makes me also think its Gleditsia triacanthos (honey locusts tree)...but I'm still uncertain.
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entheogenic-gnosis wrote:The thorns in your top picture makes me also think its Gleditsia triacanthos (honey locusts tree)...but I'm still uncertain.
-eg
Thank you, i really hoped acacia 
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The wood of Robinia pseudoacacia glows green under UV.  Everything is always okay in the end, if it's not, then it's not the end.
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Wow, that's pretty cool. I did not know that about Robinia Pseudoacacia.
I can say fairly confidently that the tree pictured is Gleditsia triacanthos.
-eg
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entheogenic-gnosis wrote:Wow, that's pretty cool. I did not know that about Robinia Pseudoacacia.
I can say fairly confidently that the tree pictured is Gleditsia triacanthos.
-eg
Thank you so much for your help with identification, yeeh, I also didn't know about glowing properties of pseudoacacia
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I think I found a whole forest of Robinia pseudoacacia tress near my home. Just out of curiosity, why we're you interested in locating this species? -eg entheogenic-gnosis attached the following image(s): KINDLE_CAMERA_1472986828000.jpg (265kb) downloaded 48 time(s). tumblr_m60t9bRTBO1qi77y6-1.jpg (85kb) downloaded 48 time(s). KINDLE_CAMERA_1472986918000.jpg (236kb) downloaded 48 time(s). KINDLE_CAMERA_1472986839000.jpg (272kb) downloaded 48 time(s).
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Quote:Chemistry Per 100 g, the seed is reported to contain 17.0–25.5 g protein, 3.0–3.3 g fat, 35.0–46.5 g NFE, 17.2–39.0 g fiber, 6.1–7.5 g ash, 1290–1500 mg Ca, 0.26–0.32 mg P. The predominant flavonoids in the heartwood are dihydrorobinetin (17.6%), robinetin (3,3',4',5',7-pentahydroxyflavone, 8%), 7,3',4',5'-tetrahydroxyflavan-3,4-diol (6.2%), and robtin (1.5%). Other flavonoids present in the heartwood are liquiritigenin, robtein, fustin, butin, butein, fisetin, 7,3',4'-trihydroxyflavan-3,4-diol, and 2',4',4-trihydroxy chalkone. Bark, leaves, and roots are reported to be toxic due to the presence of a toxal-bumin, robin (1.6% in the bark). Toxic symptoms are suggestive of those associated with belladonna poisoning. Bark also contains a glucoside robinitin (3%), syringin, tannin (up to ca 7.0%), some coloring matter and an unidentified, unstable alkaloid. Inner bark is reported to contain amygdalin, and urease. Leaves, considered antispasmodic and laxative, prescribed in digestive disorders, are poisonous to chicken. Leaves contain a coloring matter acacetin (apigenin-4'-methyl ether). Apigenin-7-bioside, apigenin-7-trioside, and indican, have also been reported. Leaves contain a volatile oil (0.01%) and carotene (209 mg/100 g). Hexene-3-ol (1) and trans-2-hexenal have been identified in the oil, the latter toxic to ciliates, such as Paramoecium. Flowers are powerfully diuretic due to the glycoside, robinin (kaempferol-7-1-rhamnosido-3'-robinobioside, 4.4%). Flowers also contain 1-asparagine a volatile oil and wax. The oil contains methyl anthranilate, linalool, a-terpineol, benzaldehyde, benzylalcohol, farnesol, heliotropin, indole, an aldehyde or ketone having a peach-like odor, and traces of pyridine-like bases. Seeds contain: moisture, 10.3–11.5; crude protein, 38.8–39.5; fat, 10.2–11.0; N-free extract, 20.4–23.0; crude fiber, 12.9–13.6; ash, 4.0–4.7; calcium (CaO), 0.19; and phosphorus (P2O5), 1.65%. Seeds contain the sugars sucrose, raffinose (traces) and stachyose, and the amino acids arginine and glutamic acid, and canavanine. Roots are rich in asparagine and are also reported to contain robin (C.S.I.R., 1946–197  . https://hort.purdue.edu/...obinia_pseudoacacia.html -eg
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entheogenic-gnosis wrote:I think I found a whole forest of Robinia pseudoacacia tress near my home.
Just out of curiosity, why we're you interested in locating this species?
-eg  i am actually looking for acacia or mimosa, but couldn't find one yet
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ricinante wrote:entheogenic-gnosis wrote:I think I found a whole forest of Robinia pseudoacacia tress near my home.
Just out of curiosity, why we're you interested in locating this species?
-eg i am actually looking for acacia or mimosa, but couldn't find one yet That makes sense. I never really thought about Robinia pseudoacacia until this thread, turns out they are plentiful in my area, as are Gleditsia triacanthos. Not active, but interesting. -eg
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