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Good can't wait 1ce, put some pics up and what you did
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sbc1 wrote:Good can't wait 1ce, put some pics up and what you did I'm cleaning up that ultra strong extract, but the downside is the addition of vg makes the filtration hard as hell. I'm using nipro 10cc disposable syringe and a whatman 22um syringe filter, ptfe. Can't do it in the solvent because dcm will eat plastic, and that oppertunitt has long [ast anyway. from filtration there does appear to be a minor amount of separation, so I'll heat/stirr everything again later and homogonize it again for an hour, should be good as new. The ejuice I am fixing was the one extracted from ipa. from what I've learned it is imperative you filter BEFORE adding VG. Probably once it has been dissolved in PG, filter, add VG, mix with heat, and homogenize. DCM is definitely the solvent of choice imho. It appears to leave many of the terpenes behind though. So what I'm thinking is I can first make a potent ejuice by cutting the flowers into chunks, sonicating in dcm, filtering, adding flavor/pg/vg, then homogenizing. Finally, I can go back to the cannabis, grind it up, dissolve in another solvent like EtAc, or azeotropic ethanol, and sonicate it again. Maybe directly in the sonicator as 1L of either isn't hard to come by. Afterwords, vacuum purging with a cold trap should suffice to collect and isolate the terpines. Terpines could always be added afterwords, mixed, and homogenized to give a fresh cannabis taste to your extracted ejuice. Might be worth keeping a vial of terpines from high qualitt bud to add to low quality bud extract.
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Could you not use your centafruge to seperate the particles from the mix. I'd love to hear more about separating the terpenes, you'll have to show us when you do it, do another step by step with pictures What do you think of this 1ce https://brinstrument.com...bis-oil-purification.php
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Ordered this one: Everything is always okay in the end, if it's not, then it's not the end.
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Looks nice steppa, I'm going to order a similar one to yours but a bit bigger and with a tap and up to 99 minutes, only because I'll eventually do a dmt extraction in it, will be easier to drain with the tap
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sbc1 wrote:Could you not use your centafruge to seperate the particles from the mix. I'd love to hear more about separating the terpenes, you'll have to show us when you do it, do another step by step with pictures What do you think of this 1ce https://brinstrument.com...bis-oil-purification.php I was just gunna use a hempel column packed with glass wool and beads, cold water and a vacuum. let the water slowly warm up to room temp and collect what comes over. From some pf the lit I've read the terpenes can oxidize to other compounds, but I can't see them being THAT fragile. if I need N2 gas to preserve them I'd be hard pressed to be bothered with it. I've distilled DMT and had no issues with oxidatio, terpines should be fine. chlorophyl is bs to remove. 22um filters will probably do the trick if you use them prior to pg addition. go slow, drop by drop.
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steppa wrote:Ordered this one: You're gunna love that machine! sbc1: that 99 minute timer will be hand as hell for settling flavors (homogenizing) . 2-3hrs gives incredible flavor. seems like 1hr = 1 week of sit time for the flavors to mature. I've got a bottle of nicotine juice sonicating now. I figure 90-12 mins and it should taste PRIME.
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1ce wrote:sbc1 wrote:Could you not use your centafruge to seperate the particles from the mix. I'd love to hear more about separating the terpenes, you'll have to show us when you do it, do another step by step with pictures What do you think of this 1ce https://brinstrument.com...bis-oil-purification.php I was just gunna use a hempel column packed with glass wool and beads, cold water and a vacuum. let the water slowly warm up to room temp and collect what comes over. From some pf the lit I've read the terpenes can oxidize to other compounds, but I can't see them being THAT fragile. if I need N2 gas to preserve them I'd be hard pressed to be bothered with it. I've distilled DMT and had no issues with oxidatio, terpines should be fine. chlorophyl is bs to remove. 22um filters will probably do the trick if you use them prior to pg addition. go slow, drop by drop. If you do try it you'll have to do a write up and some pictures so I can see. What do you mean distilled dmt, how did you do that. Why don't you do a hexane wash or dcm might work to remove the cholophyll and crap, alcohol, saline water and your dcm or hecane, mix in a sepratory funnel, then decant the dcm/hexane into a jar then repeat until the dcm/hexane is clear of crap https://skunkpharmresear...nd-waxes-out-afterwards/Some decent info on there
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1ce wrote:steppa wrote:Ordered this one: You're gunna love that machine! sbc1: that 99 minute timer will be hand as hell for settling flavors (homogenizing) . 2-3hrs gives incredible flavor. seems like 1hr = 1 week of sit time for the flavors to mature. I've got a bottle of nicotine juice sonicating now. I figure 90-12 mins and it should taste PRIME. What temp do you recommend whilst sonicating for an hr plus Yeah I can't wait to get sorted so I can start, just moved into a new house so I'm tight on money at the min, but soon I'll be getting myself the cleaner and a centrifuge, as well as collecting other bits along the way, especially learning from you guys
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fuge isnt that useful for this, a filter flask, funnel, and a hand pump would probably benefit you more. syringes, syring filters maybe.
for the extraction I try to stay away from the bp of the solvent. homogenizing I go about 50-55C
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white grape flavor still not in yet, that's about all I'm waiting for. >.< but may be in tomorrow.
I ordered it from flavorart uk, been im us for about 7 days now.
*sobs*
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Supplies arrived today! Unfortunately my plans to make a white grape flavor got scraped because the mango flavor I ordered smelled goddamn HEAVENLY. Like fresh, ripe, juicy champagne mangos. Will be testing it for first time in an hr. basically, 1g sativa dominant canabis flower was cut into chunks and sonicated in methylene chloride for 5 mins. (not shown). Filtered into a 125mlnsidearm filter flask, rilter was rinsed 2x with methylene chloride. (not shown. Flask was stoppered and heated on a hot water bath to drive off solvent until a small ammount of oil is visible. Then dissolved in 5ml propylene glycol, and flask was rinsed with 2 more 5ml portions (while heated on water bath. PG solution was decanted into a syringe and pushed through a filter, slowly, drop by drop. 15ml vg was addedm then 8% mango flavoring. Pre-product was stirred vigorously oj a hotplate with mild heating. Solution turned a milky color (I think from flavoring). Then product was sonicated (homogenized) for 1hr. due to the sudden opaqueness I had to check out my (final)product under a microscrope. I onlt positively identified 1 cellular mass, and some crystalline fragments. (???) I calculated the concentration under a haemocytometer with no luck, I've no idea why the product is not clear. Citrates from the mango perhaps? 1ce attached the following image(s): IMG_20160904_032312.jpg (724kb) downloaded 81 time(s). IMG_20160904_032320.jpg (861kb) downloaded 82 time(s). IMG_20160904_033343.jpg (708kb) downloaded 82 time(s). IMG_20160904_033858.jpg (776kb) downloaded 82 time(s). IMG_20160904_035044.jpg (706kb) downloaded 82 time(s). IMG_20160904_035403.jpg (698kb) downloaded 81 time(s). IMG_20160904_035911.jpg (735kb) downloaded 81 time(s). IMG_20160904_041317.jpg (795kb) downloaded 81 time(s). IMG_20160904_044904.jpg (654kb) downloaded 81 time(s).
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Made e-juice myself Took 8g popcorn nug and trim and extracted them with ice cold ethanol in a prechilled beaker. Found out that I had to less ethanol and topped up with roomp temp IPA. Shook two or three minutes then strained off the plant material poured the result throug a coffeefilter. The solution had a green tint to it. So I set it out in the sun for 20 minutes. It was yellow afterwards. Seems to me like the sunlight is good at destroing chlorophyll. The solution was evaped dry and then a few drops of ethanol were added to make the exract runny. 15ml pg was added in a warm water bath. And some mixing was done Until it was a clear solution. 16ml vg were added and stirred in. Solution turned cloudy/milkey. About an hour in a waterbath with periodic stirring. Result was cooled and put in a flask an partitaly in a tank. It vapes good. Could be more potent, though. After day one stuff beginns to fall out. Don't have my ultrasonic cleaner yet. Everything is always okay in the end, if it's not, then it's not the end.
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dang, what falls out? waxes or fats maybe?
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You've got some equipment there 1ce, on your next one will you be able to upload pictures from the beginning, I think it might be the sugars/flavors of the eliquid as to why it's cloudy, maybe centifuge it to see if it helps
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yeah, i reuse the dcm. one without access to distillation would have to boil it off I recomend doing so with hot water so toi don't overheat it. I found this is very easy to do with cannabis extracts.
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sbc1 wrote:You've got some equipment there 1ce, on your next one will you be able to upload pictures from the beginning, I think it might be the sugars/flavors of the eliquid as to why it's cloudy, maybe centifuge it to see if it helps I meant to but forgot at first.only thing you missed out on was cutting a nug into 4 equak pieces, putting it in a beaker, covering the nugs with dcm, and sticking it in the sonicator. pictures are included immediatelt after.
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1ce wrote:dang, what falls out? waxes or fats maybe? That would be my guess too. Maybe winterizing is essential. And nobody wants to inhalte fats and waxes anyways. Regardless...my ultrasonic device arrived this morning. In the evening I'll throw it in to see if it will fall out again after ultrasonic treatment. Everything is always okay in the end, if it's not, then it's not the end.
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