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The quechua translation of "aya" is closer to "dead" or "ghost" (or "spirit" or "soul"*) and "husca" generally translates to vine, though I suppose "rope" could work..
I have always been partial to the notion that "ayahuasca" translates to "the vine of the dead" or "the vine that gives you access to death" or "vine that gives access to the conscious dimension after death"
I think "vine of the souls" or "spirit vine" are translations that were preferred simply because "vine of the dead" raises all kinds off negative connotations and associations in the western mind. It would also give prohibitionists a "scary" name to work with, they would attempt to spin it to mean "vine that causes death"
Ever since the first time I smoked DMT, I have been convinced the experience is identical to entering after death states, and it seems the ancient users all the way up to modern practitioners of the decoction seem to have made this association.
Some people find this difficult to grasp, they can't understand how DMT could induce beliefs in the spiritual...Though in my opinion all the spiritual actually is, is "non-physical being" it's conscious existance free from a physical body...
to me it seems absurd to think that all the consciousness you will ever experience will be in a single physical body, in a single physical place, at a single time, and to me it's obvious that a physical body is not a prerequisite for conscious-being , for consciousness, and DMT confirms all of this. the Tibetan book of the dead describes the dimensions accessible through the DMT flash, calling my this place "the bardo", the Tibetan book of the dead is a bit of a mistranslation, its actual translation in Tibetan is Bardo Todrol Chenmo, which means the Great Liberation Through Hearing in the Between, and this book serves as a PERFECT guide book to the DMT flash, as well as death.
After hearing a report of terence mckenna giving DMT to a Buddhist monk, and then the monk telling terence "this is the "lesser light" of the bardo", I was inspired to see what my friends who were highly educated in Tibetan Buddhism had to say, and consistently I was told " this is the Chikhai Bardo"
Quote:The Chikhai Bardo is the after death state described in the Bardo Thodol (Tibetan Book of the Dead) wherein the consciousness of the dead person fully enters into the light of the dharmakaya or "truth body." (explained in the first part of this series).
In this state, the person temporarily experiences for the first time the state of awareness without a second, that is to say, a state of pure consciousness.
This is the state of non-duality. The first experience here is the sight of the Primordial Clear Light or the "Clear Light of Reality." This is the pure mind of the Buddha, Christ, and all the perfected saints and mystics
http://www.chinabuddhism...i_Bardo:_The_Primordial_(Clear_Light)_and_the_Awareness-Body
I'll stop, because most of this is going off topic.
There are accepted spellings of ayahuasca, "ayahuasca" being considered the correct spelling in western writing.
-eg
A friend of mine says this is radio-entelechy leaving the anterior fontanelle at the top of your head. A friend of mine suggests this is our radio entelechy ripping out of the organic matrix terence mckenna fragments