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#1 Posted : 8/23/2009 4:39:54 AM
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after much grief, SWIM finally has some white powder in his mason jar after a FP, however SWIM has never smoked anything, he had some glassware that was shaped like a pipe but it didn't work, he has heard aluminium works but hasn't seen how it would be used for spice
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#2 Posted : 8/23/2009 5:27:43 AM
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Can you buy an "oil burner" from a headshop? They are pipes commonly used to smoke meth.

You can often find them in gas stations and non-chain convenience stores.

It's a bulb with a tiny hole and a tube. Put DMT in the bulb, and apply heat with a lighter UNDER the glass bulb. This will heat up the glass which will heat up the DMT. Let the DMT melt. Then start sucking on the tube SLOWLY while keeping heat on the glass. Vary the distance between the lighter and the bulb to keep it from getting too hot or too cool.

Alternately you can do the same thing with aluminum foil and a straw, but this is difficult to manage well unless you've had experience chasing the dragon. It is also wasteful no matter how good you are.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/23/2009 5:28:07 AM

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You can make a great working pipe out of an apple just jab a couple holes into it with a bic pen in the appropriate places. Poke holes through tin foil with a tack for a screen and mix your "spice" with some sort of kitchen herb like oregano and smoke it with matches or a lighter.

Don't worry about over heating it. I apply the lighter directly to the "spice" infused herb and burn it like a condemned house and It works perfectly (no hit or miss just hit)
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#4 Posted : 8/23/2009 4:14:31 PM

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https://www.vaporgenie.com/

I should really be getting money from these guys the way I promote them hah, but seriously, I was wasting alot before I picked one up.....
Can we make https://www.vaporgenie.com/ a sticky or something? It really is one of the best ways to smoke and people dont look like crackheads doing it, it can only help our image.....
 
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#5 Posted : 8/23/2009 4:57:08 PM

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An alternative would be the Vaporstar:

http://www.google.de/sea...s+vaporgenie&spell=1

Just don't waste your product on inferior smoking devices. There are 4 options:

The machine
Changa/enhanced leaf/leafbed
Vaporstar/Vaporgenie

My vote goes to the vaporstar. SWIM says that it'S awesome. HE hasn't had the possibility to try the genie though.
 
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#6 Posted : 8/23/2009 6:11:01 PM
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tried tin foil - realized it was too dangerous
tried a bunch of other house hold items - all failed
tried light bulb - worked but the smoke was insanely harsh

so, I made a bong

I took the light bulb, stabbed the inhale pipe into the lower half of a sprite bottle, filled it up w/ water, and now the top of the sprite bottle is my new mouth peice

It definitley made the smoke less harsh (though it can still be harsh when taking a deep breath), but the problem is, I'm not feeling anythying

I just hold it in for 10-15 seconds while lighting up the rest of it, even after 2 inhales, I feel nothing except maybe a little bit weird but I think that's cause I'm holding my breath

Should I just use more? Take deeper breaths?


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#7 Posted : 8/23/2009 6:24:14 PM

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You shouldn't burn it, it renders the spice inactive
 
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#8 Posted : 8/23/2009 6:26:38 PM
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As long as it's all getting vaporized within the first or second hit, and as long as all the smoke is making it to your lungs and you hold it in for 10+ seconds, I don't see what could be going wrong other than needing more DMT. But still, even with a small amount of DMT you should be feeling something, like the very buzzing come-up of DMT, without the psychedelic breakthrough.
 
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#9 Posted : 8/24/2009 2:06:16 PM
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Jumiem wrote:
You can make a great working pipe out of an apple just jab a couple holes into it with a bic pen in the appropriate places. Poke holes through tin foil with a tack for a screen and mix your "spice" with some sort of kitchen herb like oregano and smoke it with matches or a lighter.

Don't worry about over heating it. I apply the lighter directly to the "spice" infused herb and burn it like a condemned house and It works perfectly (no hit or miss just hit)


SWIM tried this

put Oregano on top of the tinfoil, put on spice, then some more Oregano, burnt it like a condemned house, inhaled the smoke, but didn't even feel the spice

also, SWIM is through w/ experimenting, Obliguhl was right about wasting the spice, SWIM lost all of his first pull just trying different methods, luckly it was just his first pull

SWIM is thinking of either making the apple method work or just saving his spice till another day when he can get a vaporgenie/vaporstar. SWIM has a window of opportunity right now, if he saves it, it'll be many months till he gets another chance like the one he has now.

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#10 Posted : 8/24/2009 2:41:16 PM

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I highly recommend just buying the cheapest smallest bong you can find, a fine gauze and some ash from burning paper or something which you can mix the spice in with to protect it and soak into.
 
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#11 Posted : 8/24/2009 5:10:22 PM

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If theres a small window of oppurtunity, you could try the ash/leaf bed method, but it doesn't work for Swim. I would safe it, buy a proper vaporisation device and then try again. It's tempting...I know, but it's very easy to waste a lot of spice. Some have success from day one, but it took SWIM alot of stuff to actually find a working method. Then, it's still not that easy to get enough in if you're not that sensitive to dmt. So it might, or might not be another challenge you'd have to face...just think of how much it would suck to get that smoking thing handled and sitting on an empty spiced vile! Without the opportunity to extract for months!

Just take your time, educate yourself some more, learn to meditate, develope a positive relation to the spice in your mind ..it'll all come in handy, I can assure you that.
 
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#12 Posted : 8/24/2009 8:56:43 PM

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I have a small glass bong that has a glass bowl, which has served me very well.

The leaf i use for the bed is always ganja as its all I’ve used so far Very happy

IMHO Its really quite easy to get the technique down. Just melt your spice first into the bottom bed of leaf and then put the top layer of leaf on. Now hover a decent flame above the bowl. The odd pull into the bowl does no harm and if you are like me the ringing in the ears will start very shortly..

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#13 Posted : 8/25/2009 2:58:29 AM
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I wish we could determine whether you're over or under heating the spice. A vaporgenie will totally solve that problem, but so would a meth pipe and those usually run $5 and are found in more places than vaporgenies... then on the other hand they ARE way more sketch, but you can always use up the spice then break the pipe.
 
 
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