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GirlNextDoor
#1 Posted : 7/16/2016 3:20:18 AM

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Hi There, I'm going to start off with Just being upfront and honest. I have almost no experience with psychedelics or hallucinogens. I've drank alcohol, smoked cannabis more than a few times and I've done a microdose of mushrooms but that is the extent of my actual experience with any mind altering substance. It is, however, far from the extent of my desire and curiosity. Which brings me to my reasoning for joining this forum. I am soon to start my journey into my mind both psychedelically and psychologically with mescaline from a San Pedro Cactus, but I am a little nervous and want to know as much as I can about what to expect going in. I have started a mild amount of research on the subject but at present most of what I know is what my boyfriend has told me. But Now I have decided it is time for me to find out more on my own and go through with this experience.
My hopes for joining this forum is to have a safe place to ask the questions that I truly need the answers to before I take my first trip, to find others that are willing to share their experiences with me on their first trip and any others they have had, and for me to begin sharing my experiences as I have them. Again, out of sheer honesty, most of my questions do stem from fear and many of them I hope to be able to find the answer without asking as well as find the answers to the questions that I don't already know to ask.
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#2 Posted : 7/16/2016 4:00:54 AM

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Welcome to the Nexus Big grin

It helps to do a lot of reading, but as far as experience reports go... some are similar but nobody has the same experiences I have.

I hope you find what you're looking for here. There is so much information recorded! I love browsing through the Nexus in my free time.

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#3 Posted : 7/16/2016 4:25:55 AM

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For threshold doses of psychedelics, the come up can feel overwhelming at first. It can feel scary and make you unsure of your decision to partake. The fear can arise in many ways during this time. I have many times uttered the words "I think I took too much!" after ingesting psychedelics. It can feel out of control at times. It can also feel very euphoric. It really depends. You really do role the dice sometimes.

Mindset is very important. It is entirely possible to change a difficult trip into a nice one rather quickly. A sitter for your first time will aid in this to be sure. I would recommend tripping with an experienced psychonaut. Just trip together and relax.

Prepare. Accept your decision. Don't panic. Breathe. Hydrate. Purge if you need. Pay attention. If feelings come up you can fight it or accept it. Cry if you need to. Try and find peace in whatever you encounter. Have confidence in yourself at all times and always know that you will be ok and use that power to provide yourself with freedom to explore with confidence. Have intention. Look for love everywhere. And most of all... try and enjoy yourself. Laugh! Laughing

Integrate after your journey.

No one can really tell you what YOU will experience. Describing threshold psychedelics experiences to the uninitiated is impossible. You have to experience it for yourself. Words fail. Descriptions are always lacking. There is little reference.Psychonauts can describe an experience to a fellow psychonaut and there is a understanding and language because there is reference.

I am glad to hear about your interest in this odd world! I hope you always stay safe and come away from your journeys feeling abundant! Happy voyage!

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entheogenic-gnosis
#4 Posted : 7/16/2016 3:00:38 PM
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Welcome.

Previous experiance with psychedelics does not necessarily matter...the first time I smoked DMT I turned into a crying mess, I had experiance with most known psychedelics, and the DMT still caused a "freak-out", while a friend who had no psychedelic experiance handled the DMT just fine.*

I would say it's best to not expect anything, this means to eliminate any preconceptions you may have regarding what you think these things may do, enter the situation as someone who is open and willing to learn, free from pre-formed notions of what the psychedelic experiance is.

I have brewed ayahuasca, and some people experienced nearly nothing, and some people were overwhelmed by the intensity of their experience, all from the exact same brew.

Don't be disappointed if it does not happen right away, with San pedro cacti you are consuming mescaline, the goal should be to ingest between 400-800mgs, which is easier said than done. If it fails to produce much effect on your first attempts, don't be discouraged, just keep trying until you get where you were trying to go, in the process you get to learn about, you get to know, and you get to build a relationship with the entheogen.

...on the other hand, if your first experiences are overwhelming, please do not be frightened away from entheogenic exploration. Some times you get more than you want, though often it may be exactly what you need, however just because it was overwhelming or frightening once, does not mean it will be that way every time.

It's a lot like making a human friend, you have to get to know, and build a relationship with these entheogens over time. Some may make bad first impressions, but will turn out to be amazing allies in th end.

These compounds can do many things to many people, and can be extremely variable in their effect, so it's best to listen to others, but to do it with a grain of salt, as their chemicals experiance May not apply to yours in any way.

I would say if you eliminate all your pre-conceived notions about what these entheogens do, and you eliminate any notions regarding what to expect from them, and keep a humble attitude, while remaining open and willing to learn, you will be just fine.

I wish you luck with n your explorations,

-eg



(I posted the report from my first DMT experience simply to illustrate what was meant when I said "freak-out", because while it was an ordeal, and while I did brake down in tears, it was also a very benneficial experience. I did not post the report to illustrate what to expect.


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Experience report

*note: the dose range in this report is highly inflated, there is no reason to ever dose this high*

the first time I used N,N-dimethyltryptamine I smoked 200mgs of translucent yellow crystals on top of a small amount of high-grade cannabis, I cleared it in a single hit. I held the hit in for around 5 seconds when the rush began, "I don't believe it!" I kept repeating in my head, "this is impossible".... my surroundings began to quiver and slither apart, faster than anything I had ever seen everything began moving away from everything else in a mash of brilliant color geometric form, and speed, before fully shattering the "reality" in my visual and mental field, it came on like a freight train, I remember thinking "oh fuck! Get this stuff out of me!" And frantically trying to exhale. It was pure terror, I thought "now you have done it! You killed yourself!" After brief mourning at the life I had just departed from I began to pay attention to the present, I remember feeling like I was at the bottom of a foggy mountain with dirt roads, the clouds felt like a domed ceiling, everything was wet, misty, cloudy and rainy, I was overcome with an intense feeling of panic and deja-vu, I felt like a lost child, everything I knew about who I was or my life or earth seemed like a distant dream, like I dissolved out of existence, I interpreted this as dying, I knew that I was dead, and I was emotionally overwhelmed while confronting the event of my death, just like sand slipping through finger cracks my entire identity as a human was dissolved, I remembered my name, the earth, my family, who I was, being a human, but like grabbing at smoke, it was futile to cling to all this, I had to let it go....I could not tell if I was breathing or not, I would take air in, but couldn't feel it, then noticed a pain in my chest, a giant mantis like being had its claws in my chest, it proceeded to tear open my chest and stomach removing all my organs and insides, I was about to go into shock when I saw a bright green light flash over my shoulder, it nearly hit me, it then became a beautiful geometric object, morphing and color changing, like a jewel from hyperspace, the mantis then put this object in my torn up body, he began to make billions of these objects, each one unique and radiating beautiful colored light and the mantoid filled my body with them, then I was sealed up and propelled into an orange light where I was resurrected...then I felt as if I was being pushed through a membrane, I was being born...slowly I began to recognize my surroundings, my face still covered in tears, I looked up and saw the branches of a tree next to me all slither in from all directions to take place and solidify as the tree, the world began to slither back into place, most things moved like elegant but sinister snakes, or like the dancing movements of a flame, as the world constructed itself back into the familiar, so did my conscious state and memory, I was still disoriented, and fairly traumatized, I thought I had been gone for millennia, "how long was I gone I asked?"...."about 20 minutes" was the answer ....those who were there said in reality I curled up into a ball and began to cry for 20 minutes, I was wondering why my face was wet, because it felt like I had actually just went through being born...any way the immense deep spiritual and psychological implications of this experience left me for ever transformed, reborn as a new person entirely, it was the single most meaningful thing that has ever happened to me
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GirlNextDoor
#5 Posted : 7/18/2016 7:34:31 AM

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Thank you everyone for being so supportive and welcoming me so freely. I really do appreciate it and I will most definitely take everything you've said into consideration. One of my biggest concerns starting out is quite honestly the possibility of having such a difficult experience and having the preconceived notions that have been drilled into my head since my childhood are going to be the biggest obstacle for me in crossing that threshold. Naturally that's why this research is so important to me and I know that the person I have chosen as my sitter, although won't be sharing in the experience, will be able to make sure I stay safe and in the right mindset, or perhaps I should say in a more positive mindset.



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cyberaktiv
#6 Posted : 7/18/2016 11:17:17 AM
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Hello. The best thing that I can tell you is to make sure that you are somewhere that you feel safe. Set and setting are so important. Have a sitter that you can trust. They can help you if things get intense. Think of them as a guide for your journey if you should need them. Go into the experience with an open mind and expect nothing, just accept what the medicine has to offer you and let it show you what you need. It will always give you what you need, not what you want. Don't try to control it, just give in to the experience. After you are back to reality, integrate your experience. Ponder on what you were shown and how to apply it to your life. Enjoy!
 
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#7 Posted : 7/18/2016 1:26:48 PM

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cyberaktiv wrote:
Hello. The best thing that I can tell you is to make sure that you are somewhere that you feel safe. Set and setting are so important.

It's actually Set, Setting and Dosage. When it comes to dosage psychonautwiki.org has been proven to be reliable.
And for difficult trips, I listen to our MD:

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I personally feel that having ready access to benzos as an adjunct, if necessary, for psychedelic ventures is important. Of course as dtrypt mentions these can be incredibly destructive if used without appropriate respect/caution.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...&m=745054#post745054

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#8 Posted : 7/18/2016 1:39:36 PM

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San Pedro is probably the most gentle psychedelic and is an excellent choice for a first experience. What specific cactus are you using and what method of administration? Bridgesii seems to be the most consistent mescaline producer and Bridgesii Tea has never let me down.

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