Hey Nexians,

Just curious, SWIM had less-than-stellar results with his first extraction from 50g ACRB (using Cyb's tek). Basically all he got was a very thin layer of extremely sticky goo on the bottom of the dish and he's now planning to try Thick-Light's for his second attempt. The problem with that though is he only has 50g ACRB left now and he'd be much more confident to invest in more product if he had found a solid TEK.

So, can Thick-Light's TEK be scaled down to work with 50g ACRB? Would SWIM just divide all quantities (except time intervals) by 10? Or would following Cyb's TEK again but introducing the full-on acid boils instead of just a heated soak be a good compromise between the two TEK's?

Unfortunately SWIM does not have enough experience to know where he went wrong, as others seem to get good results from Cyb's TEK.

Might have bad bark maybe?

I have never had a problem with cyb/earthwalkers method, and lately have even been skipping the cleanup / mini a/b step, and still get a 95%+ crystalline end result.

2.1% on average with the bark I have.

ACRB has more oils compared to MHRB. This is normal.
Use: Earthwalkers ACRB TEK 100g "PICS" (Newbie Friendly)
I do think you need to do a mini A/B on the stuff you got.

What temperatures did you use of the acid/basing/pulling stages?
Higher temps pulls more oil. Next time pull at room temp.

This is my take on scaling:


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Wow, thanks for that info

Interesting about the temperature issue... SWIM did try to keep the solution warm at all times, during the acid soak, basifying stage, and pulls (Cyb's tek). During the pulls he warmed the naphtha, poured it in and mixed, and then put the whole bottle back in warm water. So SWIY'd recommend doing this whole pulling stage at room temp next time?

Interestingly, SWIM never really noticed the lye-water mixture get all that warm. He went slowly of course, but it just never heated up a significant amount. Also the naphtha was sooo repelled by the base soup that he could hardly get it to even mix. It separated again almost instantly, like within seconds. Is that normal?? Maybe that's why the pulls were all crystal clear (but slightly yellow) and didn't yield more than mayyybe 100mg from 5 pulls on 50g? If that is a problem, how could that be remedied?

As an update, SWIM has saved the naphtha after about 3 separate freeze precip attempts, each time getting a little more goo out of it. He decided to try and evaporate it way down on the theory that combining all 5 pulls he performed in one dish was diluting the DMT enough to leave the majority in solution, even at freezing temps. He did his third freeze precip after evaporating significantly and finally got about 10mg of baby crystals out of that, along with ~20mg more red/brown/yellow goo. Nothing to write home about, but it's progress.

SWIM's currently evaporating down even further, with the goal of trying one more freeze precip attempt once the nps is basically almost gone. Is there any reason he shouldn't just let it completely evap? SWIM has heard mixed reports on crystallization at room temp with ACRB. SWIM knows you lose the nps by letting it evap, but it's cheap and available so he's not worried about saving every ml of nps.