I met this really reclusive guy a few months ago on a hike. He lives under the mountains and I never find him, he always finds me. He claims to live the same way as other people, only that he found "alternate sources of energy" that allows him to live with electricity, but off the grid.

For one reason or another the topic of extraction came up between us one afternoon and I told him some of the stuff I had learned here. He asked why I hadn't tried it and I told him because I didn't want to risk my freedom. He laughed and told me to get him the recipe and he would do it himself. So I did. I choose Noman's technique for him. I took the necessary supplies and tek to him and told him good luck and that I would see him in a couple of days.

When I got back to the place we usually meet there was only a notebook on the ground. Inside were his notes and some questions he wanted me to pass on (he doesn't have a computer, and even if he did I don't see how he could get net connection, unless he's discovered some alternate source for that, too).

Anyway, this is what he wrote in his notebook:



He would really appreciate help from more experienced "cave men," LOL! Let me know what you guys think and I'll be sure to pass the information on to him.

It would help if your friend told us step by step what he did also your friend should evap the naptha(not lighter fluid its a terriblle solvent makes dirty dmt) down half way.

I think most of the time people aren't leaving everything to soak long enough before trying to pull the stuff. I always try to leave it for a week, but it's usually only 2 days, but I won't throw it away and then do my other pulls after a week.

If there's DMT in there it will come out.

I haven't used zippo fuel but I've heard from many folk that it does indeed work.

I leave my first pull with hot naptha for no longer than an hour and a half. My first pull has alway resulted in extremely white spice. Then the next pull is left for 24 hours amd the 3rd pull is left for a week. As the time goes on the spice gets more yellow. Also zippo fluid works but the spice has to be cleaned with another solvent.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I told him of the suggestions.

Good news is that he is seeing the mixture turn into a more milky substance as more solvent evaps.

Soulfood: It was actually sitting for about 5 days before he made any attempts at pulling, so I don't think that's a problem at the moment.

Big Inhale: He said he would try to clean his solution with sodium carbonate.

Thanks again for all the feedback and I will make sure to put his results here when he finishes.

From my friend:

Glad it worked out. Hopefully you perfect your method.